Pretty much...BUT...they compared the C27 with the C-130J-30 not the shorty....which could pretty much perform the same. (Assault speeds are lower...plus some other differences...takes too long to explain here)

 

Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged

That is also what most of us believe who have been intimately involved in the program. The political side of this disgusts me. OPSEC considerations prevent me from speaking in full, but suffice it to say that several warriors in my unit shed blood over this BS! We faced enormous risk by flying this aircraft in combat.


Not without reason. Your efforts kept our (Tallil dustoff) airframes up and saved lives. Thanks.

 

Not really. The J-model Herk is now limited by landing distance. With the "classic" Herk, we can land places we can't take off from. With the J-model, you can take off from places you could never land & stop in. You have to look at landing distances, not takeoff runs...the C27 can still get into places the Herk can't.

 

Air Force, Coast Guard talk C-27J deal - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times

Air Force, Coast Guard talk C-27J deal



By Marcus Weisgerber - Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Mar 11, 2012 10:14:18 EDT
Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert Papp told lawmakers last week that he has talked with Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz about the feasibility of transferring C-27Js to the sea service. The Coast Guard is conducting a business case analysis of transferring the cargo haulers.
The Coast Guard flies C-130Js and EADS-produced CN-235s, which it calls the HC-144. The Coast Guard opted for the HC-144 over the C-27J because of lower life-cycle costs, Papp said at a House Appropriations homeland security subcommittee hearing. Still, he’s not ruling out a mixed fleet of HC-144s and C-27Js.
“[S]ometimes things fall in your laps and if we can get … basically free from the Air Force, we might be able to come up with the plan that would allow us a mix of the [CN-235s], a mix of the C-27s, and, oh by the way, that might put some extra money in our budget that we could devote to some of these other projects,” Papp said March 6.
Papp noted that the C-27J and C-130J use the same engines, which would help cut the logistical costs of operating two aircraft.

 

I didn't believe it either until I saw the article. Knew you would like that one, Monty. Is it possible that common sense could win the day??

 

We'll see Bug. How long did it take to missionize the J's? I know they were flying around as slick transports for years.

I hope simulator time can be part of the deal. Not having a CASA sim has hurt the quality of our training.

This news is definitely a step in the right direction. The C-27 might not be living up to expectations as a tactical airlifter at fields with high density altitude, but could do nicely out of coastal airports in the maritime patrol regime of flight.

 

Monty, It took them 6 years to missionize the J. I am glad they figured it out, as the H's will not fly forever. We did just buy two more J's last year and will be opening Barbers up as the second J Airsta sometime in the future. Just think, in 15 years when the H's are all max fatigued, we could have J's, big and small throughout the fleet. There has to be more efficiencies there than buying 40 casas....probably wishful thinking though....

 

Heard a recent update on this issue, it looks like it is progressing at light speed in comparison to how acquisitions usually go. Rumor is that the CG has submitted the proposal to the appropriate approval authorities. The Chief of Staff of the AF is onboard with the transfer. I have heard various numbers as far as airframes go, last rumor I heard was for 32 C27 airframes. Does anyone know the exact number of airframes that the Air Guard had, both actively flying and yet to be delivered? Also heard a rumor that the deal may include the C130J Hurricane Hunters from Keesler....Anyone out there heard anything on that?

 

Do you have the CASA 235 simulator? And what are the cost for the initial course

 

Bump.... I guess.