Quite a fall from Sec Gates
03-01-2013, 06:34 PM
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Copy, you start a thread named "Quite a Fall from Sec Gates" and can't state a single reason why it's a fall.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
03-01-2013, 06:54 PM
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Copy, to quote yourself, "WTH are you talking about?"
You must be learning impaired. Once again, I didn't start this thread. Obviously the English language is a challenge for you. So is using Google.
Makes sense to me.
You must be learning impaired. Once again, I didn't start this thread. Obviously the English language is a challenge for you. So is using Google.
Makes sense to me.
03-01-2013, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderOveur
Copy, to quote yourself, "WTH are you talking about?"
You must be learning impaired. Once again, I didn't start this thread. Obviously the English language is a challenge for you. So is using Google.
Makes sense to me.
You must be learning impaired. Once again, I didn't start this thread. Obviously the English language is a challenge for you. So is using Google.
Makes sense to me.
03-01-2013, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DakBroadbent
It was never a fact that the center of the universe was earth. But you're correct; it was BELIEVED TO BE a fact that it was. That belief was incorrect.
Which is why I said in the beginning that FACTS are questionable.
We don't even know what is FACT and what is not because FACT changes - the very reason why they are, and should be, challenged.
Someone challenged the FACT that the earth was flat.
What this has to do with Hagel as SecDef I have no idea.
Passer - I am truly sorry that you have such a poor view of your service's leadership.
I know that if I had felt that way about my leadership it would have been much harder to enjoy my time in the Corps.
But I can relate in some ways - I guess I hold many of those feelings towards 90+% of our country's leadership! [meaning the out for themselves part]
03-01-2013, 08:44 PM
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Sooooo close! Theories change. Facts never do. The facts just sit there, why we humans conjecture about them, sometimes applying the fact label accurately, sometimes not.
We're saying the same thing, basically, aside from the usage of the word fact vs. theory, or 'accepted as fact.'
Thread drift? What thread drift?
We're saying the same thing, basically, aside from the usage of the word fact vs. theory, or 'accepted as fact.'
Thread drift? What thread drift?
03-02-2013, 12:09 AM
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So is this Epistemology class or Airline Pilot Central?
Philosophers mostly think facts are "justified true belief" or something like that (it's been 3 decades since my last epistemology class).
Rudyard Kipling has a much more visceral definition of facts in this:
Poems - 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings'
Philosophers mostly think facts are "justified true belief" or something like that (it's been 3 decades since my last epistemology class).
Rudyard Kipling has a much more visceral definition of facts in this:
Poems - 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings'
03-02-2013, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DakBroadbent
Sooooo close! Theories change. Facts never do. The facts just sit there, why we humans conjecture about them, sometimes applying the fact label accurately, sometimes not.
We're saying the same thing, basically, aside from the usage of the word fact vs. theory, or 'accepted as fact.'
Thread drift? What thread drift?
We're saying the same thing, basically, aside from the usage of the word fact vs. theory, or 'accepted as fact.'
Thread drift? What thread drift?
Well I thought we were saying the same thing in the last post because you nailed it, but if you are back to FACTS never change - then no we aren't. In this discussion I pointed out many things that were accepted as FACTS until at some point in history they ended up being disproven because amazing - people got it wrong. Maybe you could give me an example of a FACT that you know to be true/unquestionable to better help me understand you point of view?
So is this Epistemology class or Airline Pilot Central?
03-02-2013, 03:58 AM
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Maybe and just maybe he'll take advice from those around him and do the right thing .
Just saying .
Just saying .
03-02-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluglehrer
So is this Epistemology class or Airline Pilot Central?
Philosophers mostly think facts are "justified true belief" or something like that (it's been 3 decades since my last epistemology class).
Rudyard Kipling has a much more visceral definition of facts in this:
Poems - 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings'
Philosophers mostly think facts are "justified true belief" or something like that (it's been 3 decades since my last epistemology class).
Rudyard Kipling has a much more visceral definition of facts in this:
Poems - 'The Gods of the Copybook Headings'
"Let us take off our shoes and define our terms"
03-03-2013, 05:50 AM
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Rudyard Kipling....ahhh, thanks for the flashback!
Rudyard Kipling - Infantry Columns - 2 hour loop - YouTube
Rudyard Kipling - Infantry Columns - 2 hour loop - YouTube
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