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Old 03-04-2013, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN View Post
I will double check with our current demo guys to make sure it hasn't changed.
It has not changed.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is, but I think maybe I'm misinterpreting HawgDriver's words about the fuel. It's still the gov't cards that get charged, which goes back to the unit.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
It has not changed.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is, but I think maybe I'm misinterpreting HawgDriver's words about the fuel. It's still the gov't cards that get charged, which goes back to the unit.
That is and has been my understanding as well and that's how it was done for every air show I performed at.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:01 AM
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I go back to my "uninformed" comment. Training to improve Air to ground skill is in no way relevant to whether the enemy has tactical jets or not.

Snarge's rants make more sense now, he just doesn't agree with military aviation in general. Puts the rest of his comments in perspective.
No, I just think there needs to be a limit. Sometimes when you think something is fundamental and ubiquitous you don't question it, or worse, you know it should change but instead resign yourself to the status quo...
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:05 AM
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No, I just think there needs to be a limit. Sometimes when you think something is fundamental and ubiquitous you don't question it, or worse, you know it should change but instead resign yourself to the status quo...
Sure, but right now we have at least two countries building nuclear weapons with the publicly stated purpose of burning the US down. These might just be insane rants by insane men, but you never know-they might be trying to impress Jodey Foster or something.

Once this silly business of war has ended we can get back to our main job of going deeply into debt without further problems.

After all, it was debt that killed the Soviet Union, not weapons and we have been falling behind in the debt race, we have a debt gap that must be closed.


There is much excess in many areas, and the US borrowed SIX times the stated sequester amount just in the last month.


"At the close of business on Jan. 31, 2013, the federal debt was $16,433,791,850,294.04, according to the U.S. Treasury. At the close of business on Feb. 28, 2013, the federal debt was $16,687,289,180,215.37. Thus, the federal debt increased $253,497,329,921.33 during the month.

In its Budget and Economic Outlook for Fiscal Years 2013-2023, published in February, the CBO explained that only $44 billion in planned federal spending will be cut during this fiscal year as a result of sequestration.

The CBO also says additional cuts that will be “attributable” to fiscal 2013 will actually take place “in later years”—not in fiscal 2013.

“By CBO’s estimate, budgetary resources for defense (other than spending for military personnel) will be cut by around 8 percent across the board, and nondefense funding that is subject to the automatic reductions will be cut by between 5 percent and 6 percent,” said CBO. According to that estimate, discretionary outlays will drop by $35 billion and mandatory spending will be reduced by $9 billion this year as a direct result of those procedures; additional reductions in outlays attributable to the cuts in 2013 funding will occur in later years.”

The combined $35 billion in discretionary cuts and $9 billion in mandatory cuts—or $44 billion--that will actually take place this year equal approximately one-sixth of the new debt the federal government accumulated in February."
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:37 PM
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Flyovers don't cost extra money as long as it's done as part of training, at least down here in the training command. Rarely do we launch a flight that does include getting the "X" so taking them away, at least from our perspective, doesn't make or break anything.

With regards to the flight demo teams, it obviously cost money to maintain, practice, fly, etc but they do give back in a way. Pensacola stated they bring in $2.5 million in one day during the July Pensacola Beach Airshow. Good for the local economy.
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it was debt that killed the Soviet Union, not weapons

Yup. And the current administration is trying very hard to do the same thing to America. It has racked up a debt = to all the previous presidencies COMBINED.

As for your use of the word "we", that is completely incorrect. There is no "we" about it. The word you are looking for is "they", as in the folks who have controlled at LEAST 2/3rds of federally elected gov't since 2007 (and the media toadies who provide cover for them).
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Yup. And the current administration is trying very hard to do the same thing to America. It has racked up a debt = to all the previous presidencies COMBINED.

As for your use of the word "we", that is completely incorrect. There is no "we" about it. The word you are looking for is "they", as in the folks who have controlled at LEAST 2/3rds of federally elected gov't since 2007 (and the media toadies who provide cover for them).
Poor SA hotdog, "WE" are all along for the ride, like it or not. They are us now, like the borg says: "You have been laminated."

All your cash are belong to us.

Lose sight, lose control, lose the fight.

Good luck getting that fixed anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
"WE" are all along for the ride, like it or not.
I choose not.


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They are us now
Perhaps. Until the coming Great Enima, that is.



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Good luck getting that fixed anytime soon.
Thanks!
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:34 PM
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I choose not.




Perhaps. Until the coming Great Enima, that is.





Thanks!
Learn how to spell enema, prior to trying one.

First you need the elements for an enema, and you don't have them.

It is going to take time and pain, lots of pain, and that hasn't happened yet.
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post

yet.
Is the key word.

And spelling smack? LOL

Hi sis.
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