GFAFB/CC Ousted for being fat
03-27-2013, 07:21 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
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Rickair,
Thanks for the clarification. I see your point.
As for Navy O-6's flying time: I never know how much they have because the Navy/Marines' bios online use a completely different format than the USAF's, and they usually don't mention the amount of hours. Is there another source to find the answer?
Thanks for the clarification. I see your point.
As for Navy O-6's flying time: I never know how much they have because the Navy/Marines' bios online use a completely different format than the USAF's, and they usually don't mention the amount of hours. Is there another source to find the answer?
03-27-2013, 07:43 AM
#52
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 484
Like the bike test, the waist measurement is oversimplification of a complicated problem.
The cycle ergometry test measured heart rate and nothing more. How this came about was the AF did a study to find things that affected long-range health. They then figured out what they could measure and simplified it and over-simplified it until they only had to measure one thing. They just kept asking the doctors, "Out of this list, which is the most important, or which has the biggest impact?"
If your use of O2 and VO2 max was the only thing that affected your heart rate, the bike test would've been brilliant. But I used to watch that heart meter thing go up and down at what seemed like its own will. I also have white coat hypertension - the doc has to take my BP about a dozen times to get a normal reading, yet when I take it on my own, I'm always 115-120/70-80. Always.
The same is true of the waist measurement. What's the one thing we can measure? What's the most important thing out of all the things we can measure to predict future health? They got the docs to whittle it down to one. If they said body fat percentage, I'd have been more inclined to buy it, but they went with waist measurement.
In the end, the AF is more concerned about how you look in the uniform. And the word 'uniform' is important in this context...
The cycle ergometry test measured heart rate and nothing more. How this came about was the AF did a study to find things that affected long-range health. They then figured out what they could measure and simplified it and over-simplified it until they only had to measure one thing. They just kept asking the doctors, "Out of this list, which is the most important, or which has the biggest impact?"
If your use of O2 and VO2 max was the only thing that affected your heart rate, the bike test would've been brilliant. But I used to watch that heart meter thing go up and down at what seemed like its own will. I also have white coat hypertension - the doc has to take my BP about a dozen times to get a normal reading, yet when I take it on my own, I'm always 115-120/70-80. Always.
The same is true of the waist measurement. What's the one thing we can measure? What's the most important thing out of all the things we can measure to predict future health? They got the docs to whittle it down to one. If they said body fat percentage, I'd have been more inclined to buy it, but they went with waist measurement.
In the end, the AF is more concerned about how you look in the uniform. And the word 'uniform' is important in this context...
03-30-2013, 12:40 AM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: Between Gigs
Posts: 142
It is a one size fits all program...for example. I have had a 39" waist since I was 30. Always passed the test, then I break my leg two weeks before I am due to test, so I can't run/push-up/sit-up and do waist only. Now, with waist only I need a 37 to pass, while not being able to work out....awesome plan with no escape clauses. SMH. Oh well, got an email from United, so lets see what their program is
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