GI Bill for Type Rating
05-20-2013, 10:13 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: Anchorage
Posts: 29
I paid a $1500 deposit to hold my place in a class (and get the manuals etc), then they wanted the remainder on the 1st day of class. I know other buddies who went ahead of me didn't have to pay anything other than the deposit as the VA paid HPA.
The ladies that work in the scheduling/finance department are very helpful. One email to them would probably get you all the answers (current and correct too).
The ladies that work in the scheduling/finance department are very helpful. One email to them would probably get you all the answers (current and correct too).
05-21-2013, 05:53 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: Pressing On
Posts: 524
fwiw...
Why pay for a 737 type? SWA is not hiring now, and even if they were upgrade time is about 20 years. You can get it after they hire you anyway. If you fit their profile they will interview you without it.
On the other hand the 737-300 non glass 73 is the plane you most likely will have to fly in a United interview. Type can really help you if not familiar, but for under 600 bucks you can get a sim ride at Crew Pilot Training in SWA's 737-300.
If you are not current money better spent on flight time.
Buyer beware.
Why pay for a 737 type? SWA is not hiring now, and even if they were upgrade time is about 20 years. You can get it after they hire you anyway. If you fit their profile they will interview you without it.
On the other hand the 737-300 non glass 73 is the plane you most likely will have to fly in a United interview. Type can really help you if not familiar, but for under 600 bucks you can get a sim ride at Crew Pilot Training in SWA's 737-300.
If you are not current money better spent on flight time.
Buyer beware.
05-25-2013, 11:08 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 481
Originally Posted by Opteryx
I'm pretty sure you have to be enrolled full time to get paid like that.
05-26-2013, 11:34 AM
#34
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: M/H/AC-130 Inst Pilot
Posts: 19
I am going through the process now for my ATP. Go to the VA benefits website and search for the school that is currently approved. Once you see a flight school in your state, (hopefully, near you) then you can apply for benefits through their VONAP link (Veterans on-line application). The application asks for the school that you plan on using the post 9-11 benefits. This takes about 30 minutes. The VA will process you application and send you an authorization letter that you can give to the Admin office at the flight school. I do not know how you will request for benefits for schools that is not currently approved. You should call the VA and ask questions specific to your case. Good luck.
06-02-2013, 09:03 PM
#35
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: Right Seat
Posts: 24
Originally Posted by hindsight2020
Yikes, what a waste of benefits....
06-03-2013, 03:29 AM
#36
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 964
Originally Posted by greenergrass
^^^+1 Didn't want to give up a year of benefits for my ATP and type. So I did my ATP in a baron. Pretty sure when my daughter goes to college in 16 years one year of tuition is going to be a little bit more than $10K.
06-03-2013, 07:48 AM
#38
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: M/H/AC-130 Inst Pilot
Posts: 19
VA Education Benefits (Post 9-11)
Per the GI Bill website (Welcome to the GI Bill® Web Site | The Home for All Educational Benefits Provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs) the following appears to apply to your Flight Certification(s):
Qualification Requirements
In order to qualify, you must have a private pilot's license and valid medical certification before beginning training. Payments are issued after the training is completed and the school submits your enrollment information to the VA.
Payment Amounts
While the participation requirements are the same for all GI Bill programs, the payment amount varies depending on the GI Bill program you are utilizing, and the type of Flight School you are attending. (Payments are issued after the training is completed and the school submits the information to the VA.)
Under the Post-9/11 GI Bill
Payments for flight training vary based on which type of flight training course and what kind of school you are enrolled in:
· If you are enrolled in a degree program that consists of flight training at a public Institution of Higher Learning you can be reimbursed up to the public school in-state tuition, and receive a monthly housing allowance (E5 rate, approx 1300 per month) and the books and supplies stipend. Monthly housing allowance is not authorized for active duty military. It is authorized for dependents enrolled in the program and you have transfered the education benefits to them. Texas currently has the highest in state tuition.
· If you are enrolled in a degree program that consists of flight training at a private Institution of Higher Learning you can be reimbursed up to the full cost of the training or the national maximum (currently $18,077.50) per academic year, whichever is less. You may also receive a monthly housing allowance (not authorized for active duty mil) and the books and supplies stipend. The Yellow Ribbon Program may apply for those enrolled in degree programs. You can see if your school participates at this website. <http://www.gibill.va.gov/benefits/post_911_gibill/yellow_ribbon_program.html>
· If you are enrolled in a vocational flight training program you can be reimbursed the lesser of (1) the full cost of training or (2) the annual maximum amount (click here to see the annual maximum amount) <http://www.gibill.va.gov/resources/benefits_resources/rate_tables.html> in effect the day you began training in your flight course. You will not receive a housing allowance or the books and supplies stipend. The maximum amount available for reimbursement depends on the academic year you begin training.
o For example, if you enroll in a dual-engine certification course that costs $15,000 on November 1, 2012. You can receive a maximum of $10,330 for that course and any other flight training (programs leading to your dual-engine certification, or other certification) that begin before August 1, 2013. Additional flight training courses that begin on or after August 1, 2013 will be subject to a new annual limit. Remember, these amounts could be further limited by your eligibility percentage <https://gibill.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/951/kw/percentage>
You can make changes to your program and school using: VA Fm 22-1995 for “Request for Change of Program or Place of Training” in VONAPP (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)
If you have not used any education benefit, you have a total of 36 months of Full-time benefit to use. I couldn’t find the below calculation info at the GI Bill website, so I cannot quote for you, but I have seen where VA calculates money into days by the following calculation for Certifications: Using 1 Aug 12 – 31 Jul 13, Certification/Licensure rates to calculate; ($10,330 divided by 360 = $28.69) for each $28.69 spent you lose 1 day of benefit. The rate for 1 Aug 13 – 31 Jul 14 is projected to be $10,970.46 for the year.
My understanding is that if your Certification is $5,000 it comes off the annual amount available ($10,330 this year) and you can use the remaining $5K on another Certification. Again, you will need to verify all this information with your VA Representative at https://iris.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/a703 call 1-888-442-4551.
Good Luck with your Certification program(s).
Qualification Requirements
In order to qualify, you must have a private pilot's license and valid medical certification before beginning training. Payments are issued after the training is completed and the school submits your enrollment information to the VA.
Payment Amounts
While the participation requirements are the same for all GI Bill programs, the payment amount varies depending on the GI Bill program you are utilizing, and the type of Flight School you are attending. (Payments are issued after the training is completed and the school submits the information to the VA.)
Under the Post-9/11 GI Bill
Payments for flight training vary based on which type of flight training course and what kind of school you are enrolled in:
· If you are enrolled in a degree program that consists of flight training at a public Institution of Higher Learning you can be reimbursed up to the public school in-state tuition, and receive a monthly housing allowance (E5 rate, approx 1300 per month) and the books and supplies stipend. Monthly housing allowance is not authorized for active duty military. It is authorized for dependents enrolled in the program and you have transfered the education benefits to them. Texas currently has the highest in state tuition.
· If you are enrolled in a degree program that consists of flight training at a private Institution of Higher Learning you can be reimbursed up to the full cost of the training or the national maximum (currently $18,077.50) per academic year, whichever is less. You may also receive a monthly housing allowance (not authorized for active duty mil) and the books and supplies stipend. The Yellow Ribbon Program may apply for those enrolled in degree programs. You can see if your school participates at this website. <http://www.gibill.va.gov/benefits/post_911_gibill/yellow_ribbon_program.html>
· If you are enrolled in a vocational flight training program you can be reimbursed the lesser of (1) the full cost of training or (2) the annual maximum amount (click here to see the annual maximum amount) <http://www.gibill.va.gov/resources/benefits_resources/rate_tables.html> in effect the day you began training in your flight course. You will not receive a housing allowance or the books and supplies stipend. The maximum amount available for reimbursement depends on the academic year you begin training.
o For example, if you enroll in a dual-engine certification course that costs $15,000 on November 1, 2012. You can receive a maximum of $10,330 for that course and any other flight training (programs leading to your dual-engine certification, or other certification) that begin before August 1, 2013. Additional flight training courses that begin on or after August 1, 2013 will be subject to a new annual limit. Remember, these amounts could be further limited by your eligibility percentage <https://gibill.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/951/kw/percentage>
You can make changes to your program and school using: VA Fm 22-1995 for “Request for Change of Program or Place of Training” in VONAPP (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)
If you have not used any education benefit, you have a total of 36 months of Full-time benefit to use. I couldn’t find the below calculation info at the GI Bill website, so I cannot quote for you, but I have seen where VA calculates money into days by the following calculation for Certifications: Using 1 Aug 12 – 31 Jul 13, Certification/Licensure rates to calculate; ($10,330 divided by 360 = $28.69) for each $28.69 spent you lose 1 day of benefit. The rate for 1 Aug 13 – 31 Jul 14 is projected to be $10,970.46 for the year.
My understanding is that if your Certification is $5,000 it comes off the annual amount available ($10,330 this year) and you can use the remaining $5K on another Certification. Again, you will need to verify all this information with your VA Representative at https://iris.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/a703 call 1-888-442-4551.
Good Luck with your Certification program(s).
06-03-2013, 09:45 AM
#39
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by greenergrass
^^^+1 Didn't want to give up a year of benefits for my ATP and type. So I did my ATP in a baron. Pretty sure when my daughter goes to college in 16 years one year of tuition is going to be a little bit more than $10K.
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