Air Force Pilot Shortage
08-16-2013, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
To be fair, Huggy...many have fared slightly worse than you have on your career arc (which is pretty unique amongst the vast majority of military pilots I've met...in a good way). . . .
08-16-2013, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
So in addition to the political backstabbing nature that is now our promotion system, we've got these other factors working for us too. As the military shrinks and staying in gets tougher, the politics behind promoting will get worse. We have LTs now trying to get masters degrees because soon it'll be possible to get passed over at the O-3 level for only having a bachelor's degree. Last couple promotion cycles have seen people up for O-4 getting passed over and separated because they were not masters complete, or had been an exec somewhere in their career. The days of flying as your primary duty are over. No one cares if you can fly an airplane well, they just want to see that you got an advanced degree, worked with Habitat for Humanity, and won CGO of the year for organizing the last commander's Change of Command ceremony.
08-16-2013, 08:23 AM
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The USAF Needs More Dumb People
I posted this a few year back and it is still applicable. When I attended ACSC (Maxwell) a young bearded college professor spoke in the big "blue bedroom." Being the Vietnam Era, just his appearance seemed to affront everybody. Forty five minutes later he got a standing ovation.
He said the problem with the USAF is you don't have enough dumb (less educated) people.
Joe Smith comes out of the Tennessee Hills, gets his first pair of boots, three square meals a day, a roof over his head and a job driving the crew bus. He loves it. After about two years the NCOIC says," Joe - you got to complete your High School GED and think about attending an NCO school or taking correspondence courses.
Joe says, "Sarge - I love my job and you have told me I am one of the best crew bus drivers. I just want to drive the bus for twenty years, retire and go back to the hills and be somebody successful. Joe is passed over for promotion, and not reenlisted. He drives back to TN and passes Harry going the other way. Harry will become another of the rotating crew bus driver.
The professor than asked, "How many of you pilots out there would rather be in the cockpit right now then here listening to me in the blue bedroom ?" (Riotous applause)
The AF demands people be educated far beyond the requirements of their job and gets rid of then if they don't qualify to be a Chief Master Sargent or General - only a small percentage make it.
Why can't pilots (and crew bus drivers) make a career out of the AF job they love ? The training costs to do other wise must be horrendous.
He said the problem with the USAF is you don't have enough dumb (less educated) people.
Joe Smith comes out of the Tennessee Hills, gets his first pair of boots, three square meals a day, a roof over his head and a job driving the crew bus. He loves it. After about two years the NCOIC says," Joe - you got to complete your High School GED and think about attending an NCO school or taking correspondence courses.
Joe says, "Sarge - I love my job and you have told me I am one of the best crew bus drivers. I just want to drive the bus for twenty years, retire and go back to the hills and be somebody successful. Joe is passed over for promotion, and not reenlisted. He drives back to TN and passes Harry going the other way. Harry will become another of the rotating crew bus driver.
The professor than asked, "How many of you pilots out there would rather be in the cockpit right now then here listening to me in the blue bedroom ?" (Riotous applause)
The AF demands people be educated far beyond the requirements of their job and gets rid of then if they don't qualify to be a Chief Master Sargent or General - only a small percentage make it.
Why can't pilots (and crew bus drivers) make a career out of the AF job they love ? The training costs to do other wise must be horrendous.
08-17-2013, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
I posted this a few year back and it is still applicable. When I attended ACSC (Maxwell) a young bearded college professor spoke in the big "blue bedroom." Being the Vietnam Era, just his appearance seemed to affront everybody. Forty five minutes later he got a standing ovation.
He said the problem with the USAF is you don't have enough dumb (less educated) people.
Joe Smith comes out of the Tennessee Hills, gets his first pair of boots, three square meals a day, a roof over his head and a job driving the crew bus. He loves it. After about two years the NCOIC says," Joe - you got to complete your High School GED and think about attending an NCO school or taking correspondence courses.
Joe says, "Sarge - I love my job and you have told me I am one of the best crew bus drivers. I just want to drive the bus for twenty years, retire and go back to the hills and be somebody successful. Joe is passed over for promotion, and not reenlisted. He drives back to TN and passes Harry going the other way. Harry will become another of the rotating crew bus driver.
The professor than asked, "How many of you pilots out there would rather be in the cockpit right now then here listening to me in the blue bedroom ?" (Riotous applause)
The AF demands people be educated far beyond the requirements of their job and gets rid of then if they don't qualify to be a Chief Master Sargent or General - only a small percentage make it.
Why can't pilots (and crew bus drivers) make a career out of the AF job they love ? The training costs to do other wise must be horrendous.
He said the problem with the USAF is you don't have enough dumb (less educated) people.
Joe Smith comes out of the Tennessee Hills, gets his first pair of boots, three square meals a day, a roof over his head and a job driving the crew bus. He loves it. After about two years the NCOIC says," Joe - you got to complete your High School GED and think about attending an NCO school or taking correspondence courses.
Joe says, "Sarge - I love my job and you have told me I am one of the best crew bus drivers. I just want to drive the bus for twenty years, retire and go back to the hills and be somebody successful. Joe is passed over for promotion, and not reenlisted. He drives back to TN and passes Harry going the other way. Harry will become another of the rotating crew bus driver.
The professor than asked, "How many of you pilots out there would rather be in the cockpit right now then here listening to me in the blue bedroom ?" (Riotous applause)
The AF demands people be educated far beyond the requirements of their job and gets rid of then if they don't qualify to be a Chief Master Sargent or General - only a small percentage make it.
Why can't pilots (and crew bus drivers) make a career out of the AF job they love ? The training costs to do other wise must be horrendous.
08-18-2013, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
..... I think I got the better of the deal.
You a 94 guy?
08-18-2013, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
Mike, similar feeling. Generally speaking, I had a great time....to the point that I'm having trouble dropping papers. Gunna do it, but don't have the bitterness many others seem to.
You a 94 guy?
You a 94 guy?
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