Vets In Blue
11-20-2013, 05:49 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: A-10
Posts: 142
Some of the guys at my Guard base went last year and said it was just a chance to get to know some of people at JB and what the company is all about. I think we'll get some briefings on how great it is to work there ect. Almost everyone who went last year from my unit got an interview. I was told to bring some resumes and to wear something blue. Everyone I know who works there loves the job/company so I thought I'd give it a shot.
11-20-2013, 08:17 AM
#42
Otto
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Turkish Pile Driver
Posts: 1,806
Originally Posted by hawgdriver
Some of the guys at my Guard base went last year and said it was just a chance to get to know some of people at JB and what the company is all about. I think we'll get some briefings on how great it is to work there ect. Almost everyone who went last year from my unit got an interview. I was told to bring some resumes and to wear something blue. Everyone I know who works there loves the job/company so I thought I'd give it a shot.
To answer my own question, there is no shuttle to the Country Inn but anybody arriving on JB 1094 can PM me to split a cab, already have 2 of us flying in from AUS that I know of.
11-22-2013, 01:24 PM
#47
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 77
Does anyone remember what was said about LORs? I thought I remembered them saying they only mattered after you got selected for an interview (blue dart exempted). In the 'majors' thread, there's a post saying they need to be uploaded because it's now part of the selection process. That goes counter to what I thought I heard. If that is the case, it's almost impossible to upload a file that's been scanned and keep it under 150 KB (the limit per document on the JB app site).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
11-22-2013, 02:50 PM
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Fastest Hunk of Junk in the Galaxy
Posts: 1,657
Here is my trip report followed by a couple questions.
Company Values:
Safety/Security
Caring
Integrity
Passion
Fun
30 day application window to allow vets to have time to get ATP. ATP is pass/fail -- no ATP = application is skipped.
4 year degree matters, reasoning is it shows you can finish something you start and you have the aptitude to learn.
Process: application -> phone screen -> phase 1 (interview) -> phase 2 (background check) -> pool. You should know if you're moving to phase 2 within 1 week of your interview, if you don't hear within 1 week it is ok to call. Phase 2 takes <1 month for military, ~120 days for civilians. Make sure you pick up from a 718 area code!!! It is good to be military, they have exhausted all their military applications from the last application window and they will interview (some) people from the Vets in Blue event on 11 December.
Competitive hours: 2500 fighter/trainer, 4000 transport, 5000 civilian, of which 1000 must be turbine (did not break out turboprop vs. jet) and if you have a blue dart you only need to achieve mins for guaranteed interview. Military may multiply their hours by 1.3, NOT add .3 per sortie. Somebody even asked if that's what they really meant and the female captain briefing specifically said military gets a 30% bump in their flight time.
Currency: for civilians, 200 hours in last year. For military as long as you've 'not been flying a desk for 5 years' currency doesn't matter. Point was military cannot control when they get moved to a staff job, for the most part civilians can control when they fly and when they do not. Civilians should explain if they have special circumstances in an attachment at end of application.
2 interview groups per month, 7 interviewers with 7 interviewees. Expect this for all months except jun/jul/aug of 2014 with the expectation to hire 250-350 (in follow-on discussions other pilots admitted they might have more attrition than the briefer stated and they might hire up to 450). This is my addition and was not stated by anybody there, but assuming best case 450 hires and 900 interviewed for the year, if you get to the interview you have a mathematical 50/50 shot.
Military can use flight examiner time as "check airman" time on the application. Extra kudos go to IP/EP time and attending Vets In Blue.
Junior bases are JFK/Boston, FLL might open up as they expand there, Long Beach is very senior.
Don't worry about skills section on application, it has nothing to do with pilot job. Don't worry if uploads don't look quite right, they know you're not uploading garbage documents.
They never have and never will furlough a pilot. (their words, not mine)
Ok, that's what I wrote down from the briefers, now a couple points and inferences I drew from other pilots:
They seem very commuter friendly. Chief pilot said 80% of his base (JFK) commutes via air, another 5% via a long drive. The remaining 15% live in base. From my interview prep I was told to never infer that you might commute since commuters are typically a chief pilot's biggest problem but I don't think that will be an issue at JB.
I have very competitive hours for legacies, and their more senior pilots seemed nervous about me jumping ship if hired. My guess is the retention problems stated in other threads is at a minimum a sensitive area, or at worst becoming something of an issue.
They rushed to get the application window open prior to Vets in Blue, but I have to completely redo mine anyway based on stuff I learned while attending the job fair, being able to edit my application while the window is open would've been nice. The application is not user friendly, is missing guidance in several areas, cannot be edited once submitted, and is really just a big stinker. I'd have preferred they did it right the 1st time instead of making me go through that online app twice.
Company Values:
Safety/Security
Caring
Integrity
Passion
Fun
30 day application window to allow vets to have time to get ATP. ATP is pass/fail -- no ATP = application is skipped.
4 year degree matters, reasoning is it shows you can finish something you start and you have the aptitude to learn.
Process: application -> phone screen -> phase 1 (interview) -> phase 2 (background check) -> pool. You should know if you're moving to phase 2 within 1 week of your interview, if you don't hear within 1 week it is ok to call. Phase 2 takes <1 month for military, ~120 days for civilians. Make sure you pick up from a 718 area code!!! It is good to be military, they have exhausted all their military applications from the last application window and they will interview (some) people from the Vets in Blue event on 11 December.
Competitive hours: 2500 fighter/trainer, 4000 transport, 5000 civilian, of which 1000 must be turbine (did not break out turboprop vs. jet) and if you have a blue dart you only need to achieve mins for guaranteed interview. Military may multiply their hours by 1.3, NOT add .3 per sortie. Somebody even asked if that's what they really meant and the female captain briefing specifically said military gets a 30% bump in their flight time.
Currency: for civilians, 200 hours in last year. For military as long as you've 'not been flying a desk for 5 years' currency doesn't matter. Point was military cannot control when they get moved to a staff job, for the most part civilians can control when they fly and when they do not. Civilians should explain if they have special circumstances in an attachment at end of application.
2 interview groups per month, 7 interviewers with 7 interviewees. Expect this for all months except jun/jul/aug of 2014 with the expectation to hire 250-350 (in follow-on discussions other pilots admitted they might have more attrition than the briefer stated and they might hire up to 450). This is my addition and was not stated by anybody there, but assuming best case 450 hires and 900 interviewed for the year, if you get to the interview you have a mathematical 50/50 shot.
Military can use flight examiner time as "check airman" time on the application. Extra kudos go to IP/EP time and attending Vets In Blue.
Junior bases are JFK/Boston, FLL might open up as they expand there, Long Beach is very senior.
Don't worry about skills section on application, it has nothing to do with pilot job. Don't worry if uploads don't look quite right, they know you're not uploading garbage documents.
They never have and never will furlough a pilot. (their words, not mine)
Ok, that's what I wrote down from the briefers, now a couple points and inferences I drew from other pilots:
They seem very commuter friendly. Chief pilot said 80% of his base (JFK) commutes via air, another 5% via a long drive. The remaining 15% live in base. From my interview prep I was told to never infer that you might commute since commuters are typically a chief pilot's biggest problem but I don't think that will be an issue at JB.
I have very competitive hours for legacies, and their more senior pilots seemed nervous about me jumping ship if hired. My guess is the retention problems stated in other threads is at a minimum a sensitive area, or at worst becoming something of an issue.
They rushed to get the application window open prior to Vets in Blue, but I have to completely redo mine anyway based on stuff I learned while attending the job fair, being able to edit my application while the window is open would've been nice. The application is not user friendly, is missing guidance in several areas, cannot be edited once submitted, and is really just a big stinker. I'd have preferred they did it right the 1st time instead of making me go through that online app twice.
11-23-2013, 12:04 PM
#50
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by Waggs
Does anyone remember what was said about LORs? I thought I remembered them saying they only mattered after you got selected for an interview (blue dart exempted). In the 'majors' thread, there's a post saying they need to be uploaded because it's now part of the selection process. That goes counter to what I thought I heard. If that is the case, it's almost impossible to upload a file that's been scanned and keep it under 150 KB (the limit per document on the JB app site).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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