VA Disability & NVGs
#21
Easy there, Hilltopper. Good for you, but it sounds like you're insulting a whole lot of people who honorably served their country. My dad dropped Agent Orange. I guess he should just now skip his VA appointments? I know a lot of people that tore up backs, necks, and shoulders by virtue of the jobs they did in the military. Tell someone with 1000 jumps to his credit that his knees and ankles probably would've sucked anyway. Or fighter pilot necks and backs, or even some pencil pusher with carpal tunnel syndrome. Bottom line is that many of these chronic injuries would not have happened but for their military service. I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
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Gonna haveta go with myth: busted.
#24
Maybe it's just me but when I retired I refused to claim any disability at all. As a matter of fact I skipped those sessions in TAP. I think it's a total sham that so many are clawing to get it for the extra $$. Some things happen when you get old: hearing goes, vision goes, backs get bad. I refuse to blame the military for any of that just so I can get the bucks. I'll let people who really are disabled get their share.
That said, eyes start to go as we age. Is it exacerbated by staring at those little green TV tubes? Don't know...I do know they always used to tell me not to sit too close to the TV when I was a kid because it would ruin my eyes!
#25
I didn't claim any VA disability either, but I did it for a different reason. I don't trust the bureaucracy and the FAA. This has been beat to death, so I won't rehash here, but for me, it wasn't worth $50/mo or so. Unless you pass the 50% threshold for concurrent receipt, it really doesn't amount to much money...
Many are.
Don't know about myth, I have heard anecdotal stories of guys getting it in the past. What their situation was is unknown to me and was the actual NVG use determined to be causal? Who knows?
That said, eyes start to go as we age. Is it exacerbated by staring at those little green TV tubes? Don't know...I do know they always used to tell me not to sit too close to the TV when I was a kid because it would ruin my eyes!
Many are.
Don't know about myth, I have heard anecdotal stories of guys getting it in the past. What their situation was is unknown to me and was the actual NVG use determined to be causal? Who knows?
That said, eyes start to go as we age. Is it exacerbated by staring at those little green TV tubes? Don't know...I do know they always used to tell me not to sit too close to the TV when I was a kid because it would ruin my eyes!

All I'm saying is that look at the OP: synopsis: "Can I get disability for 100 hours of NVG time?" No statement that he/she is actually disabled in any way. Made my point for me.
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Maybe it's just me but when I retired I refused to claim any disability at all. As a matter of fact I skipped those sessions in TAP. I think it's a total sham that so many are clawing to get it for the extra $$. Some things happen when you get old: hearing goes, vision goes, backs get bad. I refuse to blame the military for any of that just so I can get the bucks. I'll let people who really are disabled get their share.
FWIW my claims were all for documented injuries which occurred during training...not the usual back, hearing, etc.
But I don't have any issue with somebody filling for something that impairs their QOL if it's reasonably service related.
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I always wondered about the 100 hour thing as well. I heard it so many times, flat out never understood it. During TAP I asked the DAV guy and got the blank look I sort of always expected. If nothing else, the average Joe Grunt has a hell of a lot more NVG time than I do, and they don't log it.
Hill I think you were a little off the top rope, but in general terms I agree with you. I went through TAP twice and both times was a little taken aback at the tone of the VA discussion.
LowSlow I get you too. But will humbly point out that waiving the VA funding fee will make a difference in my retired life. I have no thoughts of being anywhere near 50% (more to the point, deserving it), but I've had enough surgeries and eat enough motrin daily [to little effect] that I think I'll hit 10%. And know I've earned it. You are correct that the $ at 10% is insignificant, but losing the funding fee is pretty huge.
Hill I think you were a little off the top rope, but in general terms I agree with you. I went through TAP twice and both times was a little taken aback at the tone of the VA discussion.
LowSlow I get you too. But will humbly point out that waiving the VA funding fee will make a difference in my retired life. I have no thoughts of being anywhere near 50% (more to the point, deserving it), but I've had enough surgeries and eat enough motrin daily [to little effect] that I think I'll hit 10%. And know I've earned it. You are correct that the $ at 10% is insignificant, but losing the funding fee is pretty huge.
#28
I am retiring from AD as well....will be retired as of 01 July. I am doing the BDD process and had my VA physical 20 March. I have been told by the DAV folks who helped my file my initial paperwork that under the BDD process I should have my rating by 01 July.
Key to BDD is you can not start it until 180 days from retirement date and no later than 60 day prior to retirement date. IF you miss this window you go into the normal process and they "advertise" 6-18 months to resolve your claim.
If you can .....go the BDD process.
Key to BDD is you can not start it until 180 days from retirement date and no later than 60 day prior to retirement date. IF you miss this window you go into the normal process and they "advertise" 6-18 months to resolve your claim.
If you can .....go the BDD process.
To relate back to the OP, I asked about NVGs during my exam and he'd never heard of it. *shrug* I don't care, I want to be compensated for valid injuries I've suffered as a result of flying a 9g fighter. I do not want to get a government handout just because I can.
#29
I always wondered about the 100 hour thing as well. I heard it so many times, flat out never understood it. During TAP I asked the DAV guy and got the blank look I sort of always expected. If nothing else, the average Joe Grunt has a hell of a lot more NVG time than I do, and they don't log it.
Hill I think you were a little off the top rope, but in general terms I agree with you. I went through TAP twice and both times was a little taken aback at the tone of the VA discussion.
LowSlow I get you too. But will humbly point out that waiving the VA funding fee will make a difference in my retired life. I have no thoughts of being anywhere near 50% (more to the point, deserving it), but I've had enough surgeries and eat enough motrin daily [to little effect] that I think I'll hit 10%. And know I've earned it. You are correct that the $ at 10% is insignificant, but losing the funding fee is pretty huge.
Hill I think you were a little off the top rope, but in general terms I agree with you. I went through TAP twice and both times was a little taken aback at the tone of the VA discussion.
LowSlow I get you too. But will humbly point out that waiving the VA funding fee will make a difference in my retired life. I have no thoughts of being anywhere near 50% (more to the point, deserving it), but I've had enough surgeries and eat enough motrin daily [to little effect] that I think I'll hit 10%. And know I've earned it. You are correct that the $ at 10% is insignificant, but losing the funding fee is pretty huge.
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LowSlow I get you too. But will humbly point out that waiving the VA funding fee will make a difference in my retired life. I have no thoughts of being anywhere near 50% (more to the point, deserving it), but I've had enough surgeries and eat enough motrin daily [to little effect] that I think I'll hit 10%. And know I've earned it. You are correct that the $ at 10% is insignificant, but losing the funding fee is pretty huge.
That's part of my concern. The FAA gained unrestricted access to VA medical records in summer of '11 and they did it by doing a "study" showing some people were lying on their medicals. To date, they've done virtually nothing with this access to my knowledge. But I don't trust bureaucracy or mission creep...I've beat this to death in other threads and am in the minority with my concerns, but I have no significant QOL that I can truly, justifiably attribute to my service, so the juice wasn't worth the squeeze for me.
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