Just starting AF UPT
#51
Hey, that was me 20+ years ago. What a deal.... using the military to gear you up for the airlines! No one has the crystal ball. Lot's of good advices here. Study hard, chair fly, play hard, and don't **** off anyone (especially the IPs).
As for type of aircraft, definitely no helos if you want to land a job with the majors right away after your 10+ years bending over for Uncle Sam. Fly what you want, if you have a choice. Don't listen to these guys who'll tell you that the airlines prefer heavy pilots; that's ancient history. You are going to be Uncle Sam's beeeeeatch for 10+ years so you might as well fly what you want, given the choice. Every MWS has its pros and cons. Kick a$$ in SUPT so you'll have a choice! Good luck.
As for type of aircraft, definitely no helos if you want to land a job with the majors right away after your 10+ years bending over for Uncle Sam. Fly what you want, if you have a choice. Don't listen to these guys who'll tell you that the airlines prefer heavy pilots; that's ancient history. You are going to be Uncle Sam's beeeeeatch for 10+ years so you might as well fly what you want, given the choice. Every MWS has its pros and cons. Kick a$$ in SUPT so you'll have a choice! Good luck.
#54
#55
You are correct, it's not absolute. I went through IFF (late 2000s) with a guy that originally tracked T-1s and went on to a Guard KC-135 squadron. A few years later he somehow got an F-16 unit to hire him. He was sent to Randolph and got a 20ish ride program in the T-38 and then sent to IFF. Unfortunately for him, he washed out of the B-course. Nice guy. Last I heard he was back in the tanker and flying for a major airline.
I would imagine this is extremely rare and most likely would only ever happen in the Guard. Although, I don't they'll ever try that again.
I would imagine this is extremely rare and most likely would only ever happen in the Guard. Although, I don't they'll ever try that again.
#56
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No one put a gun to my head to sign up. I don't blame anyone. It is what it is. I never saw the "good 'ol days" that I have heard growing up. Bending over... you betcha. Uncle's beaaaatch.... most definitely! I made life long friends, got to see the world, and the flying was a blast (when I finally got to fly after countless hours of doing "made up work" and infinite amount of bs ground training). I just couldn't sawllow the unbelievable bs and I wasn't alone. I finally caught up with that carrot and it turned out to be a orange turd, so I punched! Yes, the grass is greener on the other side, at least for me and my family!
My apologies for momentarily hijacking the thread.
My apologies for momentarily hijacking the thread.
#57
What's wrong with the Air Force? - General Discussion - Baseops Forums
I don't think it was a negative sentiment of their service, but more or less how they felt they were treated, how they saw the systems works and its inherent flaws. Most, if not all of these people walked with their feet when they were offered VSP and TERA this past year.
#58
USMC - I don't think you understand the magnitude of the situation. I ask you to read the following thread:
What's wrong with the Air Force? - General Discussion - Baseops Forums
I don't think it was a negative sentiment of their service, but more or less how they felt they were treated, how they saw the systems works and its inherent flaws. Most, if not all of these people walked with their feet when they were offered VSP and TERA this past year.
What's wrong with the Air Force? - General Discussion - Baseops Forums
I don't think it was a negative sentiment of their service, but more or less how they felt they were treated, how they saw the systems works and its inherent flaws. Most, if not all of these people walked with their feet when they were offered VSP and TERA this past year.
This sort of duality is just hard for me to understand:
Bending over... you betcha. Uncle's beaaaatch.... most definitely! I made life long friends, got to see the world, and the flying was a blast
), and I even spent extra time learning all of the joys of being a rifleman along the way
I'm not sure if I had different expectations of what the military would be like or if I just had a better experience than what I see commonly posted on the forums.Again - I'm truly sorry that so many of the forum users seemed to have had such a terrible time during their service. I count myself as fortunate that I did not.
#59
I thought about the airlines every step of the way during UPT and graduated number 1 out of T-1's, but I kept my mouth shut about it aside from a few airline Reserve IP's that convinced me a FAIP tour would set me up best if I knew I wouldn't be making AD a career. To the OP... bust your ass, keep your mouth shut, be a good dude, and let your performance give you the opportunity to decide what you want when they slap that drop sheet down on the desk. Don't worry about people that say it's too soon to be thinking about the airlines while in UPT. I heard the same thing 7 years ago when I was in UPT and asking similar questions on this site, but I'm glad I thought about the airlines back then so when I had enough of the AD bull**** I was prepared enough to put in for the VSP.
#60
With that said the most fun I've had in an aircraft is the 3hrs I got in a Huey at Rucker during one of our T-6 static displays that we set up for a Rucker Graduation. Had I not known that I definitely wanted to go to the airlines I would have done everything possible to cross train to helo's.
Thankfully Delta/American pay should hopefully provide the opportunity to fly helicopters again.
Best of luck dude!
Thankfully Delta/American pay should hopefully provide the opportunity to fly helicopters again.
Best of luck dude!
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