T-34 Sim/FTD time
02-23-2015 | 12:18 PM
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T-34 Sim/FTD time
Navy Gents...unless you AF guys had something similar
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For purposes of "My Flight time by Simulator" on Airline Apps, would you count your time on ye olde 2B37 (i.e. the T-34 Sim/FTD)??? I used it in '95/'96 timeframe, I can't imagine younger guys ever saw it outside a museum.
It wasn't full motion and had no visuals, so that should make it a Flight Training Device (FTD)...but do we add that to our sim totals for Airline Apps purposes?
Bottom Line: For Airline Apps sum totals purposes, does an FTD count for anything?
The instructions don't address the situation, and thus far I have not, but would like to know what everybody else has done/how they've handled that. I don't need it, but don't want to short-change myself either.
Thanks!
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For purposes of "My Flight time by Simulator" on Airline Apps, would you count your time on ye olde 2B37 (i.e. the T-34 Sim/FTD)??? I used it in '95/'96 timeframe, I can't imagine younger guys ever saw it outside a museum.
It wasn't full motion and had no visuals, so that should make it a Flight Training Device (FTD)...but do we add that to our sim totals for Airline Apps purposes?
Bottom Line: For Airline Apps sum totals purposes, does an FTD count for anything?
The instructions don't address the situation, and thus far I have not, but would like to know what everybody else has done/how they've handled that. I don't need it, but don't want to short-change myself either.
Thanks!
02-23-2015 | 02:18 PM
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There are "simulators" out there on the civil side that do not have visual and no motion.......frasca comes to mind.......and you can log time towards an instrument rating in them
I put all my mil sim/ftd time in airline apps.
I put all my mil sim/ftd time in airline apps.
02-23-2015 | 04:57 PM
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02-23-2015 | 05:13 PM
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Navy Gents...unless you AF guys had something similar
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For purposes of "My Flight time by Simulator" on Airline Apps, would you count your time on ye olde 2B37 (i.e. the T-34 Sim/FTD)??? I used it in '95/'96 timeframe, I can't imagine younger guys ever saw it outside a museum.
It wasn't full motion and had no visuals, so that should make it a Flight Training Device (FTD)...but do we add that to our sim totals for Airline Apps purposes?
Bottom Line: For Airline Apps sum totals purposes, does an FTD count for anything?
The instructions don't address the situation, and thus far I have not, but would like to know what everybody else has done/how they've handled that. I don't need it, but don't want to short-change myself either.
Thanks!
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For purposes of "My Flight time by Simulator" on Airline Apps, would you count your time on ye olde 2B37 (i.e. the T-34 Sim/FTD)??? I used it in '95/'96 timeframe, I can't imagine younger guys ever saw it outside a museum.
It wasn't full motion and had no visuals, so that should make it a Flight Training Device (FTD)...but do we add that to our sim totals for Airline Apps purposes?
Bottom Line: For Airline Apps sum totals purposes, does an FTD count for anything?
The instructions don't address the situation, and thus far I have not, but would like to know what everybody else has done/how they've handled that. I don't need it, but don't want to short-change myself either.
Thanks!
02-23-2015 | 08:42 PM
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I'm an Air Force guy who flew later on in the Turbo-tormenter. I did NOT count it, as it was non-motion/non-visual. (Level-A) I had sim time in two jets with visual and motion. (level-C).
Sim time isn't worth much on an application, if anything....I'm not an expert. If it's all you have, then maybe include it. But otherwise, I would think highlighting it seems to be making up for low total time....even your total time doesn't need bolstering.
There's an old adage that under-reporting your time probably won't hurt you, but over-reporting it can get you blacklisted...
Sim time isn't worth much on an application, if anything....I'm not an expert. If it's all you have, then maybe include it. But otherwise, I would think highlighting it seems to be making up for low total time....even your total time doesn't need bolstering.
There's an old adage that under-reporting your time probably won't hurt you, but over-reporting it can get you blacklisted...
02-24-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Better to under-report. FTD is not sim, and although they often get lumped together someone with a bug up their butt might get bent out of shape.
I never logged any 121 sim, since I would need need a CFI signature to make it legit and most 121 instructors either can't (non-CFI) or won't (liability) sign your personal logbook.
I never logged any 121 sim, since I would need need a CFI signature to make it legit and most 121 instructors either can't (non-CFI) or won't (liability) sign your personal logbook.
02-24-2015 | 06:28 PM
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Like I said, why bother? I have a check mark on my resume that says I was a simulator instructor at one point in my career. That's all it's worth.
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