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Old 06-20-2006, 06:55 PM
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My point is that you might make incredible sum of money in aviation, but most likely will not. If you were to buy a home instead at least you would have a roof over your head and a growing asset to sell later. The odds are significantly against being able to earn back the price of training. Therefore aviation is becoming more of a working hobby and less of a real job. I you are on a Life quest then by all means have at it. Perhaps you could become a street mime for retirement?


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Haha... If you put it that way. You have style in your posts. You should become a writer/editor or something of that sort.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 08:38 PM
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My point is that you might make incredible sum of money in aviation, but most likely will not. If you were to buy a home instead at least you would have a roof over your head and a growing asset to sell later. The odds are significantly against being able to earn back the price of training.
This has to be the first point I agree with SkyHigh on in a long time. I also did not take out a loan for my flight training. I paid for every cent of it with money I had saved from highschool/college jobs and investing in the stock market. And I trained at an FBO. But, instead of having a $40,000 nest egg, I have just a few thousand. I could have bought a house (well, I don't know if 40k would even be a reasonable down payment in CA, but...). And yes, it probably would be a better return on my investment.

But there is a reason why I chose to fly. I love it. I'd rather fly 20hrs a week instead of work 40hrs a week.
"If you truly do something you enjoy, you'll never work a day in your life."

So back to how this relates to loans, I would say go for the flight training if its something you truly enjoy. Here's what I recommend.
Work your butt off for about 6 months. Save every penny you can. Then start flight training. Keep a full time job (try for hours like 6am-2pm or 2pm-10pm). That way you can either do flight training in the morning or afternoon. 9 to 5 is tough, especially in the winter. You will have maybe $25k a year coming in from your job, and you will probably spend $35k on flight training. Not bad. Add the money you saved from the 6 months, and now you only have to take out a small loan.
Avoid debt at all cost. Do not get a 100k loan!! Do not go to an aviation academy!!
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:11 PM
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But there is a reason why I chose to fly. I love it. I'd rather fly 20hrs a week instead of work 40hrs a week.
"If you truly do something you enjoy, you'll never work a day in your life."

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I enjoy XBox. Is there anyone hiring for that? The idealism of youth can be poison. If you can't buy a house with 40K in SFO what makes you think you can earn a living as a pilot there?

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Originally Posted by ryane946

But there is a reason why I chose to fly. I love it. I'd rather fly 20hrs a week instead of work 40hrs a week.
"If you truly do something you enjoy, you'll never work a day in your life."

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I enjoy XBox. Is there anyone hiring for that? The idealism of youth can be poison. If you can't buy a house with 40K in SFO what makes you think you can earn a living as a pilot there?

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Brilliant! As do I. I can afford to purchase that PS3 and get personally type rated!
 
Old 06-20-2006, 09:33 PM
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Yep. Microsoft is hiring. There are over 30 different studios that makes games for the Xbox. There are over 100 that makes accessories for the XBOX. Not to mention all the full time gamers that work at the Xbox and game related websites. There are 2 fulltime tv channels that report on games and the gamers culture. There are now more than 5 seperate degrees you can get that teach you how to become a video game developer.

And I haven't even scratched the surface.
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Yep. Microsoft is hiring. There are over 30 different studios that makes games for the Xbox. There are over 100 that makes accessories for the XBOX. Not to mention all the full time gamers that work at the Xbox and game related websites. There are 2 fulltime tv channels that report on games and the gamers culture. There are now more than 5 seperate degrees you can get that teach you how to become a video game developer.

And I haven't even scratched the surface.
No doubt, microsoft is class. What are your vies on the PS3 SkyHawg? Worth The Loot?
 
Old 06-20-2006, 09:51 PM
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Most people consider a house an asset because the trend over the last 60 years has been that a house will go up in value. This may or may not always be the case and a lot of people lose a lot of money buying and selling their house. Yea in the end they might get a nice check they can put in the bank but after reflecting on the amount of money for sweat equity, maintance, loan interest, closing costs, real estate agent fees, and other misc. costs most people have a negative value on their house. And buying a house is a neccessary evil for most people vs. renting. Personally if I could do it all over I would still live with my parents. Sigh.

I say all this after I have bought and sold 2 houses in the last 5 years with some of that time over lapping. My primary house I had 5 years, just sold, and made $15k in but in the end lost $6k on paper. Then there was my other house which was an "investment" I had it for 1.5 years. And lost $17k in cash and $23k on paper.
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PS3 will definately be neat. $600-$700 for a game system is a big much for me for the base unit.

It all depends on how hardcore you are. Because then you will want to buy more controllers, games, network adapter, & wireless internet. To take advantage of it you will need a HD tv & a Dolby Stereo system.

I have owned 2 xboxes and bought and sold over 8 PS2 and never played any of them more than 30 hours total. What a waste for me.
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PS3 will definately be neat. $600-$700 for a game system is a big much for me for the base unit.

It all depends on how hardcore you are. Because then you will want to buy more controllers, games, network adapter, & wireless internet. To take advantage of it you will need a HD tv & a Dolby Stereo system.

I have owned 2 xboxes and bought and sold over 8 PS2 and never played any of them more than 30 hours total. What a waste for me.
I've been the same as well. Ya, Ill wait until the system price goes down so I can get more controllers and games. That HD TV IS A NESCESSITY!
 
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Um, loans? lol
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