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Old 03-08-2020, 06:35 PM
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It will take 36 years to hold it too.
Over 25 for PICs is real and probably at least 18 years for SICs when the planes come on property.

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Old 03-09-2020, 03:30 AM
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The Global 7500 will pay 10% more for both PICs and SICs when they come on property. All the others pay the same for each year of service, but as another mentioned, the current Globals, Gulfstreams, and 650s have 3 years or service for pay at 4% more per year of service.

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Not until year 15. A 5 YOS guy get paid the same on all aircraft.


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Old 03-09-2020, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest View Post
It will take 36 years to hold it too.
but, but... that 65 y-o rules pointing its nose around the corner.... Some may get on it earlier when all crews will need 1 jockey under 60 y-o.
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Old 03-09-2020, 12:35 PM
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but, but... that 65 y-o rules pointing its nose around the corner.... Some may get on it earlier when all crews will need 1 jockey under 60 y-o.
Maybe if there is a deal made or a lawsuit won by the company. The younger pilots, at least initially will be the instructor pilots and check airman that will get it a little bit (but reasonably) out of seniority order. Without a deal or a lawsuit, the pay incentive will make it hard for the older pilots to stay away.

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Not until year 15. A 5 YOS guy get paid the same on all aircraft.


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True. I should have been more clear. That said, nobody under 15 years of seniority will see even the right seat for probably a decade or more.

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Old 03-09-2020, 01:22 PM
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True. I should have been more clear. That said, nobody under 15 years of seniority will see even the right seat for probably a decade or more.

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Are aircraft assignments based off seniority so that you can bid into a new airframe or is it all based on company need?
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Old 03-09-2020, 01:52 PM
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Your initial aircraft will be assigned. After you have completed your 39 month seat lock you are free to bid whatever you want and it will be awarded by seniority.
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Old 03-09-2020, 04:58 PM
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Your initial aircraft will be assigned. After you have completed your 39 month seat lock you are free to bid whatever you want and it will be awarded by seniority.

39 months is such an unusual timeframe...

What would be considered a junior fleet (besides the Phenom 300 I’m assuming) on the FO side?
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Old 03-09-2020, 05:17 PM
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The 7&7 schedule is nice because you can plan your life more than 1 month ahead of time. When junior you'll get a line that starts on the weekend so you never get a full weekend off. When more senior you can get a mid-week start day so you have every other weekend off.


How long does it take before you can get a 7/7 line where you have full weekends off? I’m sure it varies between fleets, but just looking for a ballpark figure.
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Old 03-09-2020, 05:19 PM
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39 months is odd but the breakdown looks like this. 3 months to get you trained and 3 years for you to generate revenue.

Junior aircraft beside the phenom are the Latitude, XL, and Sovereign. 2015 hires are now holding the Challenger 350 and Longitude, and get close to the Challenger 650.
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