Will we have a new LOA or a TA by Nov/Dec 23?

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Quote: We already managed to keep safety a priority despite the few pretty bad pilots, who couldn't get hired anywhere else, that have snaked themselves through the nets of recurrent check-rides for the past 20 years, mostly not bending metal thanks to the nanny sitting in the other seat. Like these 2 senior pilots trying to bend a 350 at TEB just months ago. We surely have a decent training program for having survived these anti-SOP, inapt outliers.

At least I welcome the professionalism, education, dedication of these new hires with no jet experience who know their SOP, fly by SOP and are very fast learners. Yes they will probably have you keep an eye on their Stable Approach as they learn to fly jets but they won't violate you at least. They have less training failure than you and your senior peers. I'd take one of them anytime over one of the lazy, bad pilots, who have enjoy a cushy life at NJASAP for the last 17 years.
I agree that there are pilots that have miraculously not been fired for training, SOP, or various other issues. That said, not changing anything in the training program to accommodate the lower experienced pilots that are becoming the majority is not a wise choice. They do learn quickly and do well in training as the vast majority of pilots here always have, but they also have vastly less experience than the previous generations and not accounting for that in any way is foolish.
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Quote: . That said, not changing anything in the training program to accommodate the lower experienced pilots that are becoming the majority is not a wise choice. They do learn quickly and do well in training as the vast majority of pilots here always have, but they also have vastly less experience than the previous generations and not accounting for that in any way is foolish.
I do agree with you on the above.
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Quote: Oh, and Sonny, the recall occurred b/c a few pilots in union leadership were recruited by the company to sow discontent. And it worked.

Where and what are those pilots now? ALL have either moved on, are SDPs in their respective fleets (wonder how that happened?) or Management pilots.
The notorious Mark Luthi continues to serve the pilot group as a negotiator. Likely the most seasoned negotiator in the room.
That's the narrative the Union pushes. He got recalled because he was a condescending, patronizing, vitriolic jerk off, as was his posse. He technically "resigned" because he KNEW the votes would have kicked his ass out. Wonder why they didn't publish the vote count??? Oh yeah.. they said they didn't count the ballots!!!!!! LOL.
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Quote: That's the narrative the Union pushes. He got recalled because he was a condescending, patronizing, vitriolic jerk off, as was his posse. He technically "resigned" because he KNEW the votes would have kicked his ass out. Wonder why they didn't publish the vote count??? Oh yeah.. they said they didn't count the ballots!!!!!! LOL.
The latest round of attacks directed at the company shows that Pedro has lost all control of the union and Luthi is now running it under the guise of Lead Negotiator. The scorched earth playbook is back and since well he doesn’t fly the line what does he care? If you try to explain something to him or his inner circle they will just tell you they know best and then attack you.

Wonder why we’re in this section 20 mess? Because Luthi told everyone we know better.

And here we are……
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Quote: The latest round of attacks directed at the company shows that Pedro has lost all control of the union and Luthi is now running it under the guise of Lead Negotiator. The scorched earth playbook is back and since well he doesn’t fly the line what does he care? If you try to explain something to him or his inner circle they will just tell you they know best and then attack you.

Wonder why we’re in this section 20 mess? Because Luthi told everyone we know better.

And here we are……
100% correct.
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Quote: The latest round of attacks directed at the company shows that Pedro has lost all control of the union and Luthi is now running it under the guise of Lead Negotiator. The scorched earth playbook is back and since well he doesn’t fly the line what does he care? If you try to explain something to him or his inner circle they will just tell you they know best and then attack you.

Wonder why we’re in this section 20 mess? Because Luthi told everyone we know better.

And here we are……
For those in the sidelines, what’s going on over there??
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Quote: For those in the sidelines, what’s going on over there??
Nothing much... Just a handful of Company Stooges masquerading as pilots on an anonymous public message-board trying to drum-up disillusionment with our current Union leadership in a desperate "hail-Mary" attempt to get that particular administration voted out next Spring.
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Quote: The latest round of attacks directed at the company shows that Pedro has lost all control of the union and Luthi is now running it under the guise of Lead Negotiator. The scorched earth playbook is back and since well he doesn’t fly the line what does he care? If you try to explain something to him or his inner circle they will just tell you they know best and then attack you.

Wonder why we’re in this section 20 mess? Because Luthi told everyone we know better.

And here we are……
How is it that ML doesn't hold an elected position. Doesn't sit on any committees besides the negotiating committee. Yet has to spend so much time on union business even when we're not in negotiations.
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Quote: Nothing much... Just a handful of Company Stooges masquerading as pilots on an anonymous public message-board trying to drum-up disillusionment with our current Union leadership in a desperate "hail-Mary" attempt to get that particular administration voted out next Spring.
I really hope you guys don’t do something dumb like that next year. I won’t get a vote because I’ll be involuntarily retired by then, but I’ll be watching.

This job would be even worse than it is without NJASAP. That’s not to say that in my opinion NJASAP leadership hasn’t dropped the ball on some very important tactical matters, but I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of the current leadership team.

Replacing the current team with a company-friendly set of Bubbas is the last thing the pilot group needs to get the CBA they deserve.
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What is a realistic timeframe on getting a deal done?
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