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Fly782 10-08-2012 07:00 AM

Didnt Great Lakes ask to have their routes put up for bid again recently?

nancy33 10-08-2012 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 1273329)
Seattle, keep hearing that in the crew room. Until something is on a staffing bid, I am a skeptic about it. No use in getting excited over something that is ONLY a rumor.

Hell I already bought 2 new crash pads there this is happening :rolleyes:

What's going on with the ATL ops? I hear the same thing about IAD and wonder if it's like the FLL-TLH routes, but on a larger scale.


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1273381)
Might want to do a little research here. Here's a link to the 24 cities Delta reduced or cut service to:

Delta Air Lines Newsroom - Press Kit

Of these 24, 17 are EAS subsidized and 7 are not. I think it's safe to say MOST are EAS subsidized.

Of these 17, 4 were awarded to Delta to be contracted out by them to one of their code share partners (Hibbing and Escabana to SkyWest, and pelliston and Sault Ste Marie to Pinnacle). 3 were awarded to SkyWest (Alpena, Iron Mountain, and international falls). 6 were awarded to Great Lakes (Thief River Falls, Devils Lake, Watertown, Ft Dodge, Jamestown, and Mason City). And 4 were Awarded to Silver, but these 4 were always flown to either Memphis or Atlanta, so they are irrelevant (Greenville, Muscle Shoals, Tupelo, and Hattiesburg).

So, that's 17 EAS contracts, 11 to SkyWest and Great Lakes, 2 to Pinnacle, and 4 to Silver. So once again, I think it's safe to say MOST were awarded to Skywest and Great Lakes.

As for the other 7 unsubsidized out of the 24 cities, 3 are serviced by SkyWest (Butte, Aberdeen, and Bemidji), 2 by Great Lakes (Pierre and Brainard), and the other two were always serviced by Eagle (Waterloo and Sioux City).

This brings the total distribution of the 24 cities to 8 for Great Lakes, 8 for Skywest, 4 Silver, 2 Pinnacle, and 2 Eagle (Again, safely saying most went to Skywest and Great Lakes).

So where exactly is this opportunity for Silver to pick up flying for Delta out of MSP?

I think you answered your own question...Great Lakes... we are no better however people in the north hate Lakes with a passion and would love to see anyone else. We also don't have the same name so they think it is a different company but we still are just as bad but in their eyes we would be better until we got up there

PerpetualFlyer 10-08-2012 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by nancy33 (Post 1273393)
I think you answered your own question...Great Lakes... we are no better however people in the north hate Lakes with a passion and would love to see anyone else. We also don't have the same name so they think it is a different company but we still are just as bad but in their eyes we would be better until we got up there

I'm not disputing the fact the Great Lakes sucks, but these are all new contracts that run for a minimum of 2 years. So these communities are locked in until 2014. Silver can not just go in and attempt to takeover the Great Lakes contracts from them. EAS doesn't work like that.

Edit: I take that back, if Great Lakes sucked so bad they wouldn't still be getting EAS contracts.

Herman 10-08-2012 07:21 AM

Is Darrell Richardson still CEO at Silver?

joethepilot 10-11-2012 12:09 PM

Amazing how quickly the other shoe has dropped... Silver is offering Voluntary Leave without Pay.

200Driver 10-11-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 1275426)
Amazing how quickly the other shoe has dropped... Silver is offering Voluntary Leave without Pay.

Wow lol :rolleyes: glass half empty? Only reason for the slight over staffing is due to no aircraft deliveries. Once the aircraft start arriving the staffing levels will be back to normal and I bet we will be short people / pilots once again.

joethepilot 10-11-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1275434)
Wow lol :rolleyes: glass half empty? Only reason for the slight over staffing is due to no aircraft deliveries. Once the aircraft start arriving the staffing levels will be back to normal and I bet we will be short people / pilots once again.

ha ha ha ... They also laughed at me when I said pinnacle was on its way out & started applying places in fall of 2011.

Bassman1985 10-11-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1275434)
Wow lol :rolleyes: glass half empty? Only reason for the slight over staffing is due to no aircraft deliveries. Once the aircraft start arriving the staffing levels will be back to normal and I bet we will be short people / pilots once again.

I'm actually in YQB at the moment picking up a new plane. We leave for GNV tomorrow. The next one is sitting outside the hangar up here waiting for this one to leave so they can get it into the hangar and start working on it. Should be down in FL within the next 2 weeks hopefully.

AeroCrewSolut 10-11-2012 01:59 PM

I am trying to get from MSL to ATL on Monday. Can a Delta pilot jumpseat on Silver Airways? Is there an agreement set up? Are there any special procedures I need to know about. Thanks.

Also, can a Delta flight attendant jumpseat on Silver Airways?

rightside02 10-11-2012 03:10 PM

GOD we need a spare plane and crew in ATL badly ... Glad to hear we got another one or two coming


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