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Old 09-30-2013, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSF3Dude View Post
Yes. 6 lessons is tough. I think 6 is tough enough for just a SIC type. It's really asking a lot for a ATP/PIC type ride for a guy who never flew the Saab, and exponentially so for someone with no 121 turboprop experience.


Back in the day when places like Eagle hired 250 hour pilots they bent over backwards to get those guys all sorts of extra training. I'm not sure if they still do that at some places or not. If some places still do that I think that might be a much safer bet for pilots with no turboprop experience. I'm just putting that out there for new guys to think about. Something to consider. ..
With the training still being done at PanAm in MSP, there is plenty of opportunity to get some extra time in during initial training. One just has to be willing to do things on their own and not rely on the company for extra training.

I know we were told we could use the sims as "paper tigers" as long as they weren't in use for training, stayed off motion, etc. We took advantage of this time and time again and it really helped.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSF3Dude View Post
Sorry if I came off as arrogant

All I'm saying is be careful and don't burn bridges to an old job to come to Silver.
Ok. Aren't you the guy that went through training for the Saab and didn't do one day on line? The result of a computer mistake that showed you as Beech Captain in which you weren't hired, that you didn't deserve and you didn't bid for so you quit?

If this is correct, your the last person that should comment on burning bridges or telling people about Silver.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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It doesn't take someone working at Silver years to figure out that its a gamble with your career trying to make it through training. That guy has more experience on the Saab than prolly most if not all of Silvers captains and Im sure he helped out his sim partner quite a bit. End result his partner still washed out, it's no surprise that this is happening when you only get 6 or 7 lessons. While I agree practicing in the sim with it off is good it's still no substitution for when it's running or out on the line. A good friend there that is a captain is experiencing these new FO's and it's not pretty.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:26 AM
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Flight Safety as a Saab 340 instructor in Houston, TX . They made him come in on his birthday on Saturday to teach us... he was pretty ****ed.
Are you talking about bald cigar smoking Tony?

He was an instructor at Colgan, knew his shyte. Good guy too.
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:29 AM
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Tony was an incredible instructor and we were lucky to have him here at AG for even a month.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:22 AM
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American to hire 40-50 pilots per month for the foreseeable future.

American Airlines plans to hire 1,500 pilots - Yahoo Finance
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:25 AM
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American to hire 40-50 pilots per month for the foreseeable future.

American Airlines plans to hire 1,500 pilots - Yahoo Finance
Tunnel vision? There's a thread like 4 down from this...
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:26 AM
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Tunnel vision? There's a thread like 4 down from this...
lol, this is the only thread I'm currently watching, I'll have to get out more.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:00 AM
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80-90% of the effort that's required to make it through sim training is preparing. You can't show up to a sim session unprepared, the sim is not the place to learn the flows, profiles and tests, that's what the CPT is for. Unfortunately some guys failed to realize this and it cost them their jobs.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat View Post
80-90% of the effort that's required to make it through sim training is preparing. You can't show up to a sim session unprepared, the sim is not the place to learn the flows, profiles and tests, that's what the CPT is for. Unfortunately some guys failed to realize this and it cost them their jobs.
Unless it's changed there was 2 days of cpt training and it wasn't very good. Many other companies spend a week if not more in CPT or FMS labs so that students are better prepared for sims.
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