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James White 11-15-2018 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by av02 (Post 2708269)
any pay raise anytime soon?

They’re will be a pay raise when you leave for frontier haha that’s what I’m planning on doing soon or maybe staying for Moxy. If you do a little research youll see some info regarding Moxy looking at silver guys. That would be huge we could be real senior baby bus captains real soon. Either way don’t get cushy flying around at silvers current rates no raise is coming management won’t give one to us if the contract isn’t due and we don’t get a performance payout I would work hard here maybe some overtime and move on but that’s just my advice some guys like it here and remain captains forever but teamsters won’t give them a raise either

sailingfun 11-15-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by James White (Post 2708622)
They’re will be a pay raise when you leave for frontier haha that’s what I’m planning on doing soon or maybe staying for Moxy. If you do a little research youll see some info regarding Moxy looking at silver guys. That would be huge we could be real senior baby bus captains real soon. Either way don’t get cushy flying around at silvers current rates no raise is coming management won’t give one to us if the contract isn’t due and we don’t get a performance payout I would work hard here maybe some overtime and move on but that’s just my advice some guys like it here and remain captains forever but teamsters won’t give them a raise either

Moxy is not looking at any line pilot hiring. At the moment they are a paper airline. The only hiring is a very limited number of non pilot management personnel. Once they are in place a flight ops supervisory team will be hired and at that point they will start looking at recruiting line pilots and where they will hire from. Probably 2 years minimum before they reach that point.
All of the above assumes they can get investors to back the airline. Interest rates are rising and startup money is not a sure thing.

James White 11-15-2018 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2708708)
Moxy is not looking at any line pilot hiring. At the moment they are a paper airline. The only hiring is a very limited number of non pilot management personnel. Once they are in place a flight ops supervisory team will be hired and at that point they will start looking at recruiting line pilots and where they will hire from. Probably 2 years minimum before they reach that point.
All of the above assumes they can get investors to back the airline. Interest rates are rising and startup money is not a sure thing.

Do you think if it doesn’t work between Moxy and silver there’s any hope silver guys get a flow anywhere?

93Sierra 11-15-2018 06:55 PM

Skywest doesn’t have a flow. I think Silver should raise pay and attract local people who want to stay local

James White 11-16-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 2709128)
Skywest doesn’t have a flow. I think Silver should raise pay and attract local people who want to stay local

We need allegiance +1% we are doing the same flying in the same cities then people would look at our contract differently

sailingfun 11-17-2018 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by James White (Post 2709091)
Do you think if it doesn’t work between Moxy and silver there’s any hope silver guys get a flow anywhere?

You should review the history of past Silver/Gulfstream international pilots. It’s not good. I think what you will see moving forward is a reduction in flow agreements as airlines understand it locks them into the worst candidates. With the amount of projected hiring good applicants will have no problem moving on to better jobs prior to any flow. What’s left will be the guys hoping to flow. I think in a few years the norm at airlines with flows will be a much higher washout rate in initial training as they try and deal with what the flows drop on their doorstep.

standardrate 11-18-2018 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2709866)
You should review the history of past Silver/Gulfstream international pilots. It’s not good. I think what you will see moving forward is a reduction in flow agreements as airlines understand it locks them into the worst candidates. With the amount of projected hiring good applicants will have no problem moving on to better jobs prior to any flow. What’s left will be the guys hoping to flow. I think in a few years the norm at airlines with flows will be a much higher washout rate in initial training as they try and deal with what the flows drop on their doorstep.

plenty of silver/GIA guys go to spirit.
Silvers not a bad gig if you want to live in FL.
Bahamas/key west is fun flying

Salukipilot4590 11-19-2018 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2709866)
You should review the history of past Silver/Gulfstream international pilots. It’s not good. I think what you will see moving forward is a reduction in flow agreements as airlines understand it locks them into the worst candidates. With the amount of projected hiring good applicants will have no problem moving on to better jobs prior to any flow. What’s left will be the guys hoping to flow. I think in a few years the norm at airlines with flows will be a much higher washout rate in initial training as they try and deal with what the flows drop on their doorstep.

See I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there.

I need my safe space now!

flightmedic01 11-20-2018 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 2710913)
See I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there.

I need my safe space now!

I see what you did there with the Office Space reference!! Yeeeaaahhh.

James White 11-20-2018 10:38 AM

Atr in GNV
 
Anyone got the deets on that? Plane in silver


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