moonship

This is a bit of a tired argument...In the slow times I know there were Lakers that went to other regionals to improve their QOL, but with the current hiring there seems to be no problem moving to a major directly from GLA. I see one to two coming to Spirit a month and one of my FO's from back in the day just went directly Delta. I've already mentioned it but from my class at Lakes those of us who are still in aviation are now at majors (UA, US/AA, SW, AS, NK, F9). Of those I only know of one who went to fly RJ's. Side by side career time frames you'll get PIC time faster and most have a chance to sweeten the resume with check airman, instructor, safety dept, ect... You'll get beat up more and work harder too though. There is plenty of info about that on the boards though.

USMCFLYR

Well you have the experience here, not I, but I would think that most pilots are always looking to move up the ladder, first within the company to get the required qualifications, training, experience, but eventually looking outside to bigger airplanes, bigger/better paying companies, etc...

I guess this would be your answer. I disagree for the most part. Yes - struggling with money can be a distraction, but the individual person will matter much more than a pay rate for a short time in training. Some people are just not cut out to be pilots and it doesn't matter what you pay them.



Absolutely! Stop having the entire regional airline industry be this sort of Taliban Afghanistan of the flying world where one hopes to survive all the mortar attacks until they can get a real job.[/QUOTE]

racer847

did they raise captain rates at all?

threeighteen

negative.

can someone loan me some characters?

unlarge

Any calls or emails to anyone attended interviews at 11/14 or 11/21 at Centennial airport?

Facebitten

Statistically great lakes will fold by april. have 2 friends there 1 was a sim instructor just left for tsa and is a cqfo since he saw the writing on the wall. other friend is hoping to get to 1500 before they go. there are 60 pilots on property if they are lucky so 30 captains and losing 7 lins a month. math equals to 5 months if they are lucky. after that they literally wont have any pilots on property. as far as 135 fo's none are staying long enough to finish class and thats ont even mentioned they are still washing half even though they are bleeding. unless there is a major shift in a way to attract pilots they wont have any left by may 2015 if things keep going. guys are bailing left and right with the writing on the wall. trips are being cancelled and routes are being pulled. good bye great lakes it was nice knowing you.

Cubdriver

The new contract has a pay raise in it for FOs though, right? I think it does, FOs start at $25k or something like that, same 24 month training contract. They will not be able to compete for long even with that much of a raise.

Facebitten

You are correct about the raise but it wont matter.who is going to go to a turboprop when everyone else will put them in a jet. unless they start hiring street captains tomorrow i dont see them lasting long. we will see what happens.

unlarge

First wave of hired in Q1 for part 135 program should build their 1500 hours around now. So should get upgraded quite soon, if not already. My bet good chunk of them will stay to build 1000 TPIC time before move on, especially as their contracts are still up for at least another half a year.
And based on what I saw on the interview there are plenty of low timers who are willing to jump into multiengine turboprop rather than build time instructing or banner towing for another year.
So all in all, I really don't think GLA will go away any time soon.

Facebitten

the numbers show they will have zero pilots by april unless there is a major change. let me know how great lakes isnt going away when as of right now they literally wont have pilots to staff their planes in 4 months im sure fo's are giddy to fly a beech. but losing 7 captains a month and they only have 30 those fo's wont have captains to fly with.