PenAir Pilots Fortress of Solitude
06-04-2017, 08:42 PM
#354
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: Super Anti-Hero
Posts: 129
Originally Posted by clearandcold
Looks like PenAir is on the hunt for a new CP.
06-10-2017, 03:48 AM
#356
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Semi-Retired...
Posts: 3,128
Found this and thought it worth posting
Looks like the new pay policy had hidden gems in it for management.
New Hires beware, there are NO minimum guarantee days off at all at PenAir. Due to staffing they built lines with as few as 8 days off, and they warn that if pilots don't volunteer for extra flying, they'll just junior man them as needed.
Daily 30 minute extensions are a way of life. Get used to 6 leg max duty days with daily 30 minute extensions. The place used to be well above average in how they treated their pilots. Now, it's becoming a sweat shop that isn't worth considering. Many of their senior captains and FO's are actively in hiring stages and phases at other carriers already. These are the guys you'd have expected to stay, and they're started no to bail. The Anchorage mother ship is in for a rude awakening when 1/2 the staffing at all 3 bases in the lower 48 give notice before they're halfway through summer.
New Hires beware, there are NO minimum guarantee days off at all at PenAir. Due to staffing they built lines with as few as 8 days off, and they warn that if pilots don't volunteer for extra flying, they'll just junior man them as needed.
Daily 30 minute extensions are a way of life. Get used to 6 leg max duty days with daily 30 minute extensions. The place used to be well above average in how they treated their pilots. Now, it's becoming a sweat shop that isn't worth considering. Many of their senior captains and FO's are actively in hiring stages and phases at other carriers already. These are the guys you'd have expected to stay, and they're started no to bail. The Anchorage mother ship is in for a rude awakening when 1/2 the staffing at all 3 bases in the lower 48 give notice before they're halfway through summer.
06-14-2017, 03:18 PM
#357
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: seat heater
Posts: 16
It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
06-15-2017, 07:54 AM
#358
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by iflypotatos
It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
06-16-2017, 02:08 AM
#359
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 72
I cant agree more, well said. If you want tough, go work away from base and try to manage a family without seeing your kids grow up. I made enough last month to provide for two children, put a healthy dinner on my table every night and pay two mortgages. Please stop making it so toxic! Get a hobby, go for a walk, try meditation... Stop making your job your life! Work and work hard, life is too short to complain about the meaningless. Work to make things better and stop making it tough on others, especially those who enjoy their lives and time at penair. Life really isnt that bad here brethern.
QUOTE=iflypotatos;2379579]It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=iflypotatos;2379579]It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.[/QUOTE]
06-16-2017, 08:29 AM
#360
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by Sailingbill
I cant agree more, well said. If you want tough, go work away from base and try to manage a family without seeing your kids grow up. I made enough last month to provide for two children, put a healthy dinner on my table every night and pay two mortgages. Please stop making it so toxic! Get a hobby, go for a walk, try meditation... Stop making your job your life! Work and work hard, life is too short to complain about the meaningless. Work to make things better and stop making it tough on others, especially those who enjoy their lives and time at penair. Life really isnt that bad here brethern.
QUOTE=iflypotatos;2379579]It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
QUOTE=iflypotatos;2379579]It's funny reading all the complaints from people that haven't been here for more than two or three years. When they had a part 135 exemption, working 14 days straight wasn't unheard of. It's easy to be an Internet troll sitting reserve at your glorious CRJ FO gig because you couldn't make it as a captain at penair. Every single regional has it's problems and PenAir is no different. There's never gonna be improvements if folks just leave after a few months. Kinda hard to staff when folks leave because they can stick it out for a few months.
The new pay scale pays better than nearly every regional out there, plus you can bank on making well above your monthly guarantee. If you're not focused on living in Alaska (which if you've already left pen for another regional, then obviously Alaska life wasn't for you to begin with), then expect a quick upgrade time.
All the bases in the states have trips that overnight, and then pass through the home base during the day. Traditional spoke and hub style. So, if an emergency came up at home you'd be back there in a few hours.
Most all the pilots are willing to trade to accommodate extra days off, as long as you're willing to return the favor. The pilot group is what makes this place run.
You were being sarcastic right, good god i hope so lol because the only ones at pen that would be able to pay two mortgages on anything larger then a moble home would be sr ca's !! Is this bateman ? Lol
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