Whatever….
 

Here's your link...

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...ntour_aviation

Burke, why do you persist on defending Contour?

They are a bad company run by managers from failed airlines that operate by what can we get by with. Not let's just do the right thing.

Look at Trip Advisor reviews, three times as many negative reviews than positive.

My opinions are first hand knowledge. Potential pilot candidates need to know how the company actually operates vs what is written to recruit.

I have worked there and give them a "D." I am currently employed and flying and give them an "A-." The differences are stark and palatable. There are so many better choices to offer your pilot talents.

Burke, your opinions come from what knowledge? You constantly make personal attacks on forum members. Over 5400 posts across all forum topics and subject matters. They are written, not as opinions , but definitive declarations of right and wrong. If your credibility as an expert on all matters related to a professional pilot are to be given credence, then the forum needs to know what experience and education you have to accept your statements as credible.
Notice this isn't a personal attack. I haven't called you a liar. I haven't spent hours searching for information to discredit you. I don't care about you because you are a bully.

You stated that the Contour website said...and it did not say any of those things. You doubled down and insisted once more that your words came from the Contour website. I'd already given multiple links showing this not to be the case, and gave you more.

Now you give me a link, tripling down on your lie...and it still isn't to the contour website, BECAUSE CONTOUR'S WEBSITE DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR LIE.

Gonna try for a fourth?

You linked airline pilot central, which is NOT Contour. Go figure. Are you not able to understand that?

At no point have I defended Contour in any way. You have lied again.

What I did do is quote you telling lies, and proved it. First, however, I asked you if the Contour website really said that, and gave you an opportunity to tell the truth. You refused, but doubled, then tripled-down on your lie, as I've once again quoted you doing. I have no more need of posting links to prove this, as I've very clearly already proven the point.

To be clear; there's no defense of Contour. I couldn't give a stuff about Contour. You posted lies and you were called out on it. This isn't about Contour. It's about YOU. Don't want to be called out? Don't embarrass yourself, especialy by doubling and triping-down on the same debunked lie.

I don't care. The right thing? Your mission is to bad-mouth them. To you, that's the right thing, apparently, but you need to know that you're really bad at it.

I have no idea what "trip advisor" is, but couldn't care less. "Likes" on social media don't mean much to me.

I don't know if English is your second language (and perhaps that's been your problem so far), but your sentence appears to be double speak. Try being specific, instead of relying on pronouns. Your sentence suggests, if you don't know, that you worked at Contour and gave them a D. You say you're currently employed without bothering to say that you're employed somewhere else, and go on to use only a pronoun, and say you give "them" an A...your sentence structure indicates that you give Contour a "D" and an "A-."

You seem to be a very inexperienced individual; your grading scale isn't based on a wealth of experience, is it?

I didn't offer an opinion. I stuck to facts. I quoted you (your words, verbatim), and provided links showing that your words were not true. Not opinion. Facts. "Knowledge?" I know what I posted is correct, and so do you, if you bothered to follow the links. Because I quoted you verbatim, and because I provided links and quoted the wording from the links verbatim, I know that what you said is not true. This isn't guesswork or opinion, and it is irrefutable.

You don't understand that?

I made no claim of expertise. I quoted you. I provided links. Focus. I don't owe you anything. If you post here, you owe others the truth. Don't lie. Don't double-down on the lie. Don't triple-down on the lie, as you've done. If you don't want to give the truth credence, if you think the links provided are somehow falsified, if you think the quotes made are somehow not correct, not verbatim, not true, then you show it. Shoe your work. Put up, or shut up. Can you do it? Prove the quotes and links that I've provided, to be wrong. You can't.

That is well: I didn't lie. I quoted you. I provided links.

You made false statements, claimed it was on the Contour website, and this was shown to be untrue. You again claimed it to be true: a second lie. You were shown again, and then you attempted to link to a non-contour site (this site, actually), making the same claim, a third lie.

You didn't call me a liar. I didn't lie. I quoted you, and gave you several chances to stop the lie. You continued, and I did call you a liar, for that is what you insist on being. You've continued, and I've quoted you doing it, again. Stop doing it.

Knock yourself out.

So you say, and yet you keep responding.

What have I done to "bully" you? I quoted you, gave you the chance to come clean about the lie and you keep repeating it. You can fix that. Stop lying.

You can cite your experience. You can cite the Contour website and provide links to back yourself up. You can state opinions.

What you can't do is lie and repeat the lie and when disproven, claim to have been "bullied." That too, is a lie.

Still no resume for Burke
 

Keyboard terrorist and bully. I don't bully and call them out. Post your quals Burke.
I do this for entertainment...

To be Fair, here's mine

30,000+ hours
Started flying gliders as a teenager and still flying professionally fifty years later.
Typed L1329, DC9, CL65, C525,B727,B757,B767,B777, B787
Part 91, Part 121, Part 135.
Line CA for largest 121 for thirty years. Retired in top 1% of seniority list flying B787 from TX over the North Pole to China.
FAA Flight Inspection Pilot.
Undergraduate Jet Pilot Training USAF
Military aircraft T37, T38, B52, F15, C140 Jetstar.
Desert Storm veteran
Transferred to Navy Reserve and flew DC9 worldwide.
FAA Master Avitor (pending)
Fly personal RV8.

Can I just say it? You're cool. Neato. You put chuck yeager to shame. How do you identify the fighter plot in the room? He'll tell you, won't he?

All that, and a "FAA Master Avitor (pending)?" Awesome sauce.

Were you a genuine 135 pilot? Damn, that's neat.

And yet you're still a god damn liar and can't figure out how to quote.

Internet terrorist? You forgot to cite among your qualifications, "drama queen."

How many qualifications do you need to quote someone, or cite a link?

Apparently, just one more. You should get that one. You don't do this for entertainment. You are entertainment (but you're still a liar).

All you got?
 

Just the facts Burke, no embellishment needed.

and yet no quals for Burke. Surprised , not really.

Nothing behind the curtain of expertise. As we like to say in TX, all hat, no cow.

I'M DONE

As they say in Texas, you're ten feet down and digging deeper.

You are done. The only qualification required to show you lied was to quote you and then prove it with simple links that anyone with the education of a fifth grader could follow.

You've been solved:

...perhaps because he's a scab, like one of their check pilots? Maybe he's failed too many checkrides, or had too many FAA actions and can't get a real pilot job? No, it can't be that... Its probably because he "enjoys the freedom of flying under 134.5 rules", or something existential like that. :rolleyes:

Whatever his reasons are for being a "fanboi", just take it with a grain of salt.


Anyone know what a "leper colony" is? Metaphorically speaking, not literally. ;)

Do you know what a scab is? Which picket line do you think I crossed? Unsubstantiated accusation on your part. Show your work.

Failed checkrides? Really? Which ones? Unsubstantiated accusation on your part. Throw it out there, see what sticks? Support your lie.

Too many "FAA actions?" Tell me about those, liar. Put up, else shut up. Do it.

Don't have a "real job?" After 40 years of career, you want a dick measuring contest about who has been on the job longer? Nothing but lies on your part, all unsubstantiated. Show your cards, brightspark.

Do you know what "134.5" is? You really don't, so you? "134.5" has "rules?" Don't be an idiot. Or at least try not so hard.

I don't work for Contour. I've never flown on Contour, let alone been inside one of their aircraft. Poor showing on your part, though.

Let's see what you're made of.

Yes, I know what a scab is. You said (when you posted your résumé :rolleyes: ) that you worked 121. Yet, you're rushing to the defense of a bottom feeder that knowingly hires scabs. Go to the scab list and check for yourself, if you don't believe me. If you were truly a 121 guy, you'd stand with your brothers in the union and call out any operation who would hire the scum of the industry. I'm kinda calling BS on the credentials you posted. Union guys don't usually persist on defending companies who hire scabs... (unless, you are one yourself)

I never said you did. I was asking questions and actually, wasn't even replying to you. I said "perhaps" and "maybe" in my previous post. I'm just at a loss as to why you're so vihemently defending this dumpster fire of a pseudo-airline. It makes no sense. You've got left me guessing... So yeah, enlighten me! Does your mom work there, or what?


:confused: Ummm.... dude..? Now you've got me thinking that you're just a bot, or something. Grammatical errors aside, you're kinda proving to me by this statement that you literally have no idea what you're talking about. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS 134.5, GENIUS!!! ;)

134.5 is slang for a part 135 operation that tries to skirt the regulations. "Part 135" has rules; part 134.5 doesn't exist. Someone as experienced as you claimed to be would know that. I actually don't believe you now and I have concerns about the fact that you may be committing stolen valor for your military claim. Please post your UPT base and class number.

Then what ties do you have to this company that keep you coming back, like a leg-humping Chihuahua, every time someone posts something about this company that you disagree with? Seriously! Why do you care? By your own admission, you've never flown on them, you don't fly for them and you've never been inside on of their aircraft. THEN WHY DO YOU CARE?

I'm genuinely curious: What is your connection to this company that makes you feel so compelled to defend them?

I've offered no defense for Contour. None, whatsoever. You have a reading comprehension problem.

I did offer links, facts and correct statements and backed up what I said. You've yet to offer anything here but lies and accusations that you can't back up, so back them up.

You've offered career-ending accusations about me, and even allegations of a criminal act, so it's your turn. Show your work. You've been challenged to do it. You can't, because it's untrue. If you're unable, you've shown yourself a liar, which you are.

You called me a scab, lair. Show it.

You referenced my failed checkrides, liar. Show it.

You claim stolen valor, liar. Show it.

You can't, liar. You can't.

Did Contour hire a scab? I don't know. I don't work for them. I certainly don't hire for them. I don't tell them what to do, or not do. My comments here are strictly in response to the posters who have chosen to post incorrect information, and lies. If you assert otherwise, back it up. I have. Don't ask me to prove claims I haven't made; you make the accusations: the burden is on you.

134.5 is an industry slang term, but it's not what you think. It does not refer to 135 operators doing questionable things. It refers to those who do not hold a 135 certificate, attempting to do illegal charters. You didn't know that, did you?

It shows.