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JohnBurke 10-24-2023 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Peachespop (Post 3714850)
If a manufacturer test pilot has demonstrated the max crosswind limit of 30 kts then there is no excuse for you not to land.

If you can't land up to the maximum demonstrated crosswind in your aircraft type, then you should absolutely not be flying it.

You probably shouldn't be flying at all.

Flyinggrill 10-30-2023 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3714926)
If you can't land up to the maximum demonstrated crosswind in your aircraft type, then you should absolutely not be flying it.

You probably shouldn't be flying at all.

Lol this a low time pilot gig. Don’t tell pilots sh*t like that. Everyone is allowed to have their personal minimums. Especially as they’re gaining experience. That’s how you keep metal out of dirt. GTFO.

JohnBurke 10-31-2023 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by Flyinggrill (Post 3717871)
Lol this a low time pilot gig. Don’t tell pilots sh*t like that. Everyone is allowed to have their personal minimums. Especially as they’re gaining experience. That’s how you keep metal out of dirt. GTFO.

It doesn't matter if it's a "low-time pilot gig." If one can't fly the airplane within it's published limitations, then one has no business being in that airplane, and quite possibly, in aviation. These are basic flying skills. That airplane has a pilot in command, and most certainly, if the PIC can't fly the airplane to a safe landing with the maximum published crosswind, demonstrated or published or recommended, then that individual has NO place in that cockpit. None.

Peachespop 11-08-2023 09:45 AM

Empty Promises
 
As per the Contour pilot recruiting page:

121 STYLE SOC- Dispatch, Maintenance Control and Scheduling

In reality there is a guy sitting in front of a screen looking at Flight Aware. There is no dispatch. Pilots are completely on their own to operate the flight from planning, weather , passengers. If there are any issues as to the delay or cancellation of the flight on part of the crew, they will receive a call not from operations, but sales. Maintenance control juggles a plethora of placards which are ever present on the dash. Scheduling is one person for all the flight crews done by hand. The stress put them in rehab last year, so scheduling was delayed and seniority ignored.

ASAP Pending
FOQA Pending

These have both been “pending” for at least two years. Don’t hold your breathe seeing them anytime soon.

This company operates on the principle of what can we just get by with…

There are so many better choices to take your pilot skills.

JohnBurke 11-08-2023 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Peachespop (Post 3722052)
As per the Contour pilot recruiting page:

121 STYLE SOC- Dispatch, Maintenance Control and Scheduling

In reality there is a guy sitting in front of a screen looking at Flight Aware. There is no dispatch. Pilots are completely on their own to operate the flight from planning, weather , passengers. If there are any issues as to the delay or cancellation of the flight on part of the crew, they will receive a call not from operations, but sales. Maintenance control juggles a plethora of placards which are ever present on the dash. Scheduling is one person for all the flight crews done by hand. The stress put them in rehab last year, so scheduling was delayed and seniority ignored.

ASAP Pending
FOQA Pending

These have both been “pending” for at least two years. Don’t hold your breathe seeing them anytime soon.

This company operates on the principle of what can we just get by with…

There are so many better choices to take your pilot skills.

The pilot recruiting site for Contour says that? Are you saying that it actually states: "In reality there is a guy sitting in front of a screen looking at Flight Aware. There is no dispatch. Pilots are completely on their own to operate the flight from planning, weather , passengers. If there are any issues as to the delay or cancellation of the flight on part of the crew, they will receive a call not from operations, but sales. Maintenance control juggles a plethora of placards which are ever present on the dash. Scheduling is one person for all the flight crews done by hand. The stress put them in rehab last year, so scheduling was delayed and seniority ignored."

A quick gander at the four position listings on their careers page, does not show that language.

https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

Peachespop 11-09-2023 06:11 AM

Forum GOD has spoken
 
Mr. Burke has yet again opinionated on a subject that he has no knowledge. 5500+ responses and counting
Go outside, take a walk… get a life outside of this forum.

I and no doubt others would like to know your qualifications to be an expert on absolutely everything. Please post your resume, really.
This will no doubt elicit a smarmy response which he excels. I have no interest in trading insults. Im good, great career, blessed life.






121-Style SOC- Dispatch, Maintenance Control and Crew Scheduling
Full SMS Program
Fatigue Management PRISM/PULSAR
ASAP -Pending
FOQA - Pending
Home Basing for PICs (conditions apply)
ATP/CTP for upgrade candidates
Electronic Flight Bag -IPreflight
Jeppesen, ForeFlight, FOS, ARMOR Prism
CASS - Reciprocal Jumpseat Participant
KCM paid for by Company
myIDTravel - non revenue travel program
Annual Profit Sharing for eligible employees
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(P380 Airline Operations and On Demand Operations)
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JohnBurke 11-10-2023 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Peachespop (Post 3722387)
Mr. Burke has yet again opinionated on a subject that he has no knowledge.

Knowledge, brighspark? I provided you the god damn links.

You do the same.

What I provided you comes directly from the Contour website, and I provided a link for each of the four pilot jobs listed. Not one of them states what you claim. Show your work.

I offered no opinion. Just facts. Where are yours?

https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

Description

Contour is a long-established aviation services company with diverse capabilities including scheduled airline operations, Part 91/135 aircraft management, on-demand charter, Fixed-Base Operations services, an FAR Part 145/EASA certified aircraft maintenance facility providing airframe maintenance, avionics installations/repairs, component overhaul services and FAR 141 pilot training. Our fleet of approximately 22 aircraft operates 15,000 flight segments annually and the company is now ranked as one of the largest Part 135 operators in the country.



At Contour, our core values are at the heart of everything that we do and every decision that we make. Constant throughout all lines of business is a commitment to integrity and safety. Our team members display an attitude of excellence and the ability to think like a customer. We recognize that there is strength in unity and work together as a team to accomplish our ambitious goals.



Contour is an Equal Opportunity Employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to age, citizenship, color, creed, sex, national origin, race, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, marital status, pregnancy, pre-disposing genetic characteristics, veteran status, military status, disability, gender identity or expression, familial status, criminal history, status as a victim of domestic violence, or any other protected status.


Contour's rapid growth has created exciting employment opportunities. We invite you to become part of the family.



Summary of Essential Duties:
  • Put safety above all.
  • Comply with schedules and other directives governing the aircrafts safe operation.
  • Perform all Company assigned duties in accordance with Company manuals, memos, and policies.
  • Conduct diligent preflight planning and prepare flight plans.
  • Provide excellent customer service to passengers.
  • Ensure that the aircraft is clean and prepared for flight with all of the necessary provisions on board for the safety and comfort of the passengers.
  • Wear the company issued uniform and comply with the uniform policy.
  • Other duties as assigned by leadership.

Qualifications

  • Be at least 23 years of age.
  • Must have a valid driver license and good driving record.
  • Possess a current passport.
  • Must have U.S. ATP license.
  • Possess a current first-class medical (verified at the time of the interview)
  • Commercial, multi-engine land license, instrument airplane rating
  • Be authorized to work in the United States and able to travel in and out of the United States.
  • Must understand, read, and write English.
  • Able to pass a required 10-year work history review and submit to criminal history records check, reference check, national drivers record check, and no excessive check ride failures.
  • Must pass a DOT required pre-employment drug screen and willing to submit to and pass FAA and Company mandated random drug and alcohol tests.
  • Possess polished and professional interpersonal skills with a positive attitude and a customer-oriented mindset.
  • Possess strong leadership and organizational skills.
  • Must have well-developed people skills and ability to work with a variety of personalities.
  • Maintain strong attention to detail.
  • Be self-motivated and able to motivate others.
  • Excellent communication skills both written and verbal delivered with tact and professionalism.
  • Excellent interpersonal skills.
  • Can work a flexible schedule including weekends and holidays.
  • Able to lift 75 lbs. routinely with or without a reasonable accommodation.
  • Hold an English Proficiency Endorsement (EPE)
  • Able to work in stressful situations and tight time constraints.
  • Be self-motivated and a team player.
  • Able to work nights, weekends, holidays, and varying schedules.
  • No previous aviation related accidents or incidents
  • Must have a residence that will ensure you are able to report to work within 120 minutes of dispatch call during your assigned duty period.
MINIMUM AND/OR RECOMMENDED FLIGHT TIMES:
  • Total Time: 1500/2000 recommended
  • Pilot in Command Time: 500 minimum/1000 recommended.
  • Multi Engine: 500/1000 recommended.
  • Being type rated in the EMB 135/145 and also being current is required.


Disclaimer: The above statements are intended only to describe the general nature and level of work required of the referenced position; they are not intended to be an exhaustive list of all responsibilities, duties, and skills required of individuals in the position. Please be advised that the duties and expectations of this position may be subject to change.


You've lied, and it's been shown.


Originally Posted by Peachespop (Post 3722052)
As per the Contour pilot recruiting page:

121 STYLE SOC- Dispatch, Maintenance Control and Scheduling

In reality there is a guy sitting in front of a screen looking at Flight Aware. There is no dispatch. Pilots are completely on their own to operate the flight from planning, weather , passengers. If there are any issues as to the delay or cancellation of the flight on part of the crew, they will receive a call not from operations, but sales. Maintenance control juggles a plethora of placards which are ever present on the dash. Scheduling is one person for all the flight crews done by hand. The stress put them in rehab last year, so scheduling was delayed and seniority ignored.

ASAP Pending
FOQA Pending

These have both been “pending” for at least two years. Don’t hold your breathe seeing them anytime soon.

This company operates on the principle of what can we just get by with…

There are so many better choices to take your pilot skills.

The contour pilot recruiting web page says this? Really?

No, not really, You've lied. Or did you simply make it up an your own opinion, and claim it came from Contour. Bolded and now quoted tiwce, will you deny it a third time?

The only one offering opinion, is you. I've no need to post a resume, as you're not entitled, but then it's not necessary, as you've been quoted, and links have been provided, with no opinion necessary. The links and the quotes are self-evident. You've lied and injected your opinion while claiming it came from Contour. Another lie. Further you claimed my post, which offered no opinion, was opinionated: another lie.

Try again.

Your comments are not backed up here:
https://www.careers.contourairlines.com/pilots-careers

Or here:
https://www.careers.contourairlines.com/captain-careers

Or here:
https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

Or here:
https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

Or here:
https://www.paycomonline.net/v4/ats/...0DB7B85238B354

Or any of the 7 F/O links here:
https://www.careers.contourairlines.com/first-officer-careers

Which one backs you up, again? Use your facts.

HumbleHawk 11-11-2023 12:20 PM

All of this bickering is not helpful. Can we all leave the emotion and name-calling out of the discussion? If you wish to argue a point with a specific person, the private message function is available.

The folks who are arguing probably have some useful information to contribute. Can we just be civil about expressing ourselves?

Thanks much.

JohnBurke 11-11-2023 02:16 PM

There is no benefit to posting lies, and one who does, should expect to be called out for doing so. if one doesn't wish to be called out, dont post lies.

Don't double down and repeate the lies, and don't post without evidence.

It's hard to argue with quotes, citations, and links.

captjns 11-12-2023 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by HumbleHawk (Post 3723231)
All of this bickering is not helpful. Can we all leave the emotion and name-calling out of the discussion? If you wish to argue a point with a specific person, the private message function is available.

The folks who are arguing probably have some useful information to contribute. Can we just be civil about expressing ourselves?

Thanks much.

Your Monica is duly noted... However, disagreements are not required to be sidelined to PMs. This forum, which is a public forum, permits, those making assertions, them to substantiate said claims by posting reliable sources of references.


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