CAE/FSI Simulator Instructor Pay

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09-17-2023, 05:31 PM

500RVR

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CAE/FSI Simulator Instructor Pay

Anyone know the current going rate for CAE/FSI simulator instructor positions for full
& part time? Hoping the pilot shortage has caused increased pay.

Thanks.

09-18-2023, 07:27 AM

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Anyone know the current going rate for CAE/FSI simulator instructor positions for full
& part time? Hoping the pilot shortage has caused increased pay.

Thanks.

Interviewed a few months ago with FSI and they were offering $95Kish. Turned them down because it sounded like a lot of work for mediocre wage! Have no clue as to what CAE are offering but would be curious.

09-18-2023, 10:25 AM

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Thank you for your response. To say I’m dumbfounded would be a massive understatement! FSI/CAE prices are so exorbitant, they significantly gouge the customer they should pay instructors at least double that amount. Wow I’d love to unionize the instructors. How unbelievably pathetic!

09-18-2023, 10:45 AM

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Anyone know the current going rate for CAE/FSI simulator instructor positions for full
& part time? Hoping the pilot shortage has caused increased pay.

Thanks.

$75/hr part time and 120-140K full time depending on airplane

09-18-2023, 02:37 PM

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$75/hr part time and 120-140K full time depending on airplane

Is that hourly rate sim time only or all time in the training center?

In any case, for a 121 op, that’s kinda low, IMO

09-18-2023, 07:16 PM

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They must be relying on pilots who are out on medical or have a reason they need to be home every night. Those pay rates are close to what regional airlines pay by year 2 for PIC's and senior SIC's.

In 2018 I interviewed at AA (I flew for USAirways for 13 years) for A320 Sim Instructor but found out my PBGC pension would be frozen if I worked for AA. And I was capped on how much I could earn with my Loss of Medical policy so between those two it wasn't worth it.
Unfortunately, AFAIK AA is the only Sim Center here in the CLT area.

09-27-2023, 06:18 AM

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Is that hourly rate sim time only or all time in the training center?

In any case, for a 121 op, that’s kinda low, IMO

It's a few years out of date now as I left FSI in 2020 but back then the hourly rate was for any billable hours ground or sim that you spent with a client including briefing time etc. There was also a program in place where full timers were salaried but made hourly bonuses based on amount of time spent instructing during the month (over 75 hrs was paid at I think $40/hr and over 90 was like $75/hr - those numbers are likely wrong as I can't remember the threshold nor the bonus payments anymore but you get the general idea) No idea if they still operate that way.