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Old 02-20-2025 | 11:40 AM
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Question for those of you well-versed in the regulations.

Unrealted to the Skywest Medevac thread but it reminded me about this question. I recently became aware of a certain operator who will use the medevac call sign when they don't want a delay. They are not transporting patients, medical staff, or doing organ transport. They will just claim "medevac" to avoid delays. Just your standard run-of-the-mill dirtbag charter company.

Is this allowed or is there a reg violation here?
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Old 02-20-2025 | 02:01 PM
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I've heard of other companies doing similar things. Not allowed, but like meowing on guard, the FAA has no way to stop people from doing it.
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Old 02-20-2025 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine;[url=tel:3885094
3885094[/url]]I've heard of other companies doing similar things. Not allowed, but like meowing on guard, the FAA has no way to stop people from doing it.
sure you can

couple random audits with major punishments for both the crew and operator would fix it easily

if you’re not flying the patient, or flying to get the patient, don’t use it
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Old 02-21-2025 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
sure you can

couple random audits with major punishments for both the crew and operator would fix it easily

if you’re not flying the patient, or flying to get the patient, don’t use it
Yeah, and it's never been easier. Everybody and their brother are monitoring ATC right now to get a soundtrack for their YouTube videos on aviation. It's not like soma anonymous soul meowing away in the flight levels.
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Old 02-21-2025 | 12:44 PM
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Well it might be way for you, but it isn't for the FAA. You would have to pay people to monitor all ATC communications live, have go teams throughout the entire country able to respond and meet the plane on the ramp. There are live ATC fans who might do the monitoring and reporting part, but you would still need people to physically be at the destination or go through the laborious process of contacting the flight crews and/or tracking down the potential fake medical records they provide. All to get a crew that was able to get a shortcut. Not worth the time of the FAA right now. I think they are more focused on making sure Boeing stops building death traps.
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Old 02-25-2025 | 08:30 PM
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Just saw a medevac come in to drop off the transplant team. Went back out as a crew only Under medevac call sign. BS.
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Old 02-26-2025 | 12:47 PM
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Just saw a medevac come in to drop off the transplant team. Went back out as a crew only Under medevac call sign. BS.
Maybe they were escorting the rotten kidney back to home base.
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Old 02-26-2025 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Three Green
Just saw a medevac come in to drop off the transplant team. Went back out as a crew only Under medevac call sign. BS.
It they are going to a new call they are allowed to do so. We use Medevac all the time on the way to pick up the patient. We don't when we are going home empty. But I have done three turns in a row before headed back to base and even then if we are going back to base to pick up another patient we can use Medevac.

But a dirtbag charter company on the other hand who just doesn't want to wait in line can apparently use it to cut in line.
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Old 02-26-2025 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8tr1
But a dirtbag charter company on the other hand who just doesn't want to wait in line can apparently use it to cut in line.
Oh, there are plenty of other tactics dirtbag operators can use. TEB has flow times? File to Hartford, CT and then "divert" to TEB when you are in NY airspace.
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Old 03-01-2025 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Oh, there are plenty of other tactics dirtbag operators can use. TEB has flow times? File to Hartford, CT and then "divert" to TEB when you are in NY airspace.
That's easy.... "TEB not accepting diversions unless emergency declared".

FAA can require a written explanation for the emergency. Was it because the mins were forecast too low to land at the filed DEST?
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