Question about Scenic Airlines
08-31-2007, 02:02 PM
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Question about Scenic Airlines
I am interested in this Part 135 operation. Does anyone have any info on it. Also, do they require you to sign a contract saying you must work there for a certain length of time? thank you
08-31-2007, 05:56 PM
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www.scenicops.com
The forum on there has a ton of information and it seems people from the company answer most of the questions. Its probably a good place to go for info on them.
Good luck and have fun!
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The forum on there has a ton of information and it seems people from the company answer most of the questions. Its probably a good place to go for info on them.
Good luck and have fun!
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09-01-2007, 03:24 PM
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I've already been to there website and applied online. They sent me an email asking to come to an interview. But before I travel across the country I want to know what I am gettin gmyself into
09-03-2007, 09:06 AM
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I worked at Scenic Airlines a little less than 2 years ago. It has changed a lot since then, so I can't be sure how accurate my info will be.
Since that time, it has been bought by Grand Canyon Airlines and gone through a lot of changes. It is now 135 instead of 121. I heard they had a lot of troubles during the change and a ton of pilots left.
When I worked there, I really enjoyed the company. They treated their pilots pretty well, had lunches available free of charge every day. I typically flew about 70-80 hours per month. Winters were very slow, only flew about 40 hours/month. Their training was extremely slow. It took me 4 months to get on line. That isn't typical though, they were having some training issues then.
If they have fixed their issues, it would be a nice place to work again. They do have a high turnover rate with pilots, but not because it's a bad place to work, it's mainly because pilots use it as a place to build multi-turbine time til they can get on with a good regional or a charter op.
Pay was about the same as a regional because you're paid while on the ground too. I worked there just under a year and was on par to make about $21,000 first year, and that includes the four months of training when I only made the $1200 guarantee. If I had gotten on line quicker, I would have made more like $23,000. Plus I was home every night, I never did a single overnighter. I never had to do reduced rest either; they had a 9 hour minimum rest period policy. Any 121 guy can tell you how much that sucks, especially the 8 hour ones. I don't think you'll have to worry bout that now that they're 135 though.
As for the age 21 thing, I can't speak for Scenic, but I would guess that's set in stone. Minimums are usually required, but I suppose it depends on what the company needs.
You don't fly much IFR except for in the winter time. Their training was in a horrible motionless simulator. It was the most difficult simulator I've ever flow (and I've flown the incredibly sensitive Lear 24 sim too). It had some mechanical problems and would not respond correctly to control inputs. Even though you don't fly much IFR, make sure your instrument skills are good otherwise you won't make it past the simulator.
Since that time, it has been bought by Grand Canyon Airlines and gone through a lot of changes. It is now 135 instead of 121. I heard they had a lot of troubles during the change and a ton of pilots left.
When I worked there, I really enjoyed the company. They treated their pilots pretty well, had lunches available free of charge every day. I typically flew about 70-80 hours per month. Winters were very slow, only flew about 40 hours/month. Their training was extremely slow. It took me 4 months to get on line. That isn't typical though, they were having some training issues then.
If they have fixed their issues, it would be a nice place to work again. They do have a high turnover rate with pilots, but not because it's a bad place to work, it's mainly because pilots use it as a place to build multi-turbine time til they can get on with a good regional or a charter op.
Pay was about the same as a regional because you're paid while on the ground too. I worked there just under a year and was on par to make about $21,000 first year, and that includes the four months of training when I only made the $1200 guarantee. If I had gotten on line quicker, I would have made more like $23,000. Plus I was home every night, I never did a single overnighter. I never had to do reduced rest either; they had a 9 hour minimum rest period policy. Any 121 guy can tell you how much that sucks, especially the 8 hour ones. I don't think you'll have to worry bout that now that they're 135 though.
As for the age 21 thing, I can't speak for Scenic, but I would guess that's set in stone. Minimums are usually required, but I suppose it depends on what the company needs.
You don't fly much IFR except for in the winter time. Their training was in a horrible motionless simulator. It was the most difficult simulator I've ever flow (and I've flown the incredibly sensitive Lear 24 sim too). It had some mechanical problems and would not respond correctly to control inputs. Even though you don't fly much IFR, make sure your instrument skills are good otherwise you won't make it past the simulator.
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