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SonicFlyer 03-11-2018 01:50 PM

What is a typical daily schedule? :confused:

Lusher 03-11-2018 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mrhr5b (Post 2548498)
My advice would be to build more time. Come in as a VFR captain or into the acp. When I first applied I wanted the emb 120 aswell and I was really lucky I didn’t get it. They get very very few hours in most case in the 120. I have 2 that I went through indoc with who over the past 6 months have averaged 35 hrs a month. Also something to be aware of is that it’s usually a couple months from the time you submit your application to your at class. If you want to speed that up and increase your chances go to recruiting events. I have 2 friends who applied with 1000+ hours and previous 135 experience and they have only just finally gotten offers after 3 months of waiting.

I have until June before I’m done with current contract anyway. I’m trying to get to the 750 TT by the end of the contract. I would like to get to 800 so I could be in the accelerated captain program.

aiqs 03-11-2018 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Mrhr5b (Post 2548496)
I’m on my way out of Abq but let me ask a little more about your situation. As there are some important variables.
1) are you coming as an acp or a captain?
2) have you already started training yet?
3) how long are you thinking of being in nm? (Until you reach regional mins or until another base opens up or for longer)


Thank you to try to help me out.

1~ as a Pa31 CA.
2~ i havent started training yet!
3~ until i reach minimums for the others of AMF or as well until another base opens up!

Mrhr5b 03-12-2018 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by aiqs (Post 2548786)
Thank you to try to help me out.

1~ as a Pa31 CA.
2~ i havent started training yet!
3~ until i reach minimums for the others of AMF or as well until another base opens up!

Things to know about Amf:
1) they are phasing out the pa31 everywhere but albuquerque. They list 26 or so in the fleet on this site but only 3 bases currently fly them and 2, Portland and Phoenix are currently phasing them out leaving only abq.
2) plan 2 months for training into your schedule of which about 2-3 weeks will be in abq (hotel paid for) there is a good chance I’ll actually be training you. A couple people have found rooms to rent on Craigslist, and some people from the company are roommates. There are a lot of like minded people here and I’ve really enjoyed working for the company and in this base. If all else fails you can get an apartment for 600-800$ for a 1 bedroom close to the airport on a 6 month lease which is really cheap where I’m from.
3) know what your getting into. Do you understand the type of flying we do? Also if your interested there are lots of opportunities for advancement here which is good and if you upgrade to the 99 lots of bases for you to try. Hope this helps,

to recap I have really gotten a lot out of flying chieftains here and am a much better pilot for it. Know that it’s a lot of work and we have a fairly high wash out rate from people who don’t know ifr(if they are going ifr) or don’t want to study. This is a job and you should come to class ready to roll. That being said it’s a blast flying the line and possibly the most freedom you’ll have in your career

Mrhr5b 03-12-2018 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2548554)
What is a typical daily schedule? :confused:

A typical daily schedule is tues-Friday report to the airport about 5:30 am then get situated. Get cargo loaded and fly your route. After am legs (1-2 legs typically) get to the hotel at your outstation around 10:30-11 am and stay there till about 4 then wait at the airport to get pm cargo and fly back to base. After unloading and paperwork leave the airport around 730-8 pm
Monday’s are usually just pm and Saturday’s if you work them are just am or pm depending if you work 6 days it is extra pay

SonicFlyer 03-12-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mrhr5b (Post 2548826)
A typical daily schedule is tues-Friday report to the airport about 5:30 am then get situated. Get cargo loaded and fly your route. After am legs (1-2 legs typically) get to the hotel at your outstation around 10:30-11 am and stay there till about 4 then wait at the airport to get pm cargo and fly back to base. After unloading and paperwork leave the airport around 730-8 pm
Monday’s are usually just pm and Saturday’s if you work them are just am or pm depending if you work 6 days it is extra pay

Do the pilots physically load and unload the cargo? :confused:

FreightDogs 03-12-2018 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2545689)
Thank you I see that it's actually UPS but either way I'm trying to figure out specifically what the gateway and flow through programs entail since this will hopefully be my first airline job.

Hi, there!

Ameriflight has a Gateway Program with UPS Airlines and Flow Through Programs with Allegiant, Omni Air, and Frontier.
The programs are specific and applicant driven. Once you start working for AMF, you can apply to be in one of our programs.
For UPS, during the first 24 months, you'll be working to meet specific personal and professional benchmarks (like flight hours, leadership positions, and more). The last 12 months will include a mentorship with a UPS pilot and a jet transition course.
The other three programs are less stringent than UPS and similar to each other. You'll need to reach a certain number of benchmarks (time with us and flight hours).

Hope that helps!

FreightDogs 03-12-2018 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Lusher (Post 2548083)
I saw in the previous replies that there aren't any bases for the EMB-120 in Texas. Why does it show on the website that they're hiring FO's for multiple locations in TX? Are they going to be operating the EMB-120 out of a base in TX? Also, I was curious if the PIC time is a hard minimum? I have 415.3 PIC but I meet all of the other requirements. If there's no bases in TX then there's no point in me applying for it though. We're moving to the Dallas area in June.

Hi, there!

I don't see that at the moment on our careers site, but it was likely supposed to be multiple locations nationwide (the site forces us to pick a state, so we choose Texas as it is where our headquarters is located).
The PIC can be slightly under that 500, especially if you can compensate in other areas (like ME or Instrument).
Depending on your TT, you might be interested in our Accelerated Captain Program.

Hope that helps!

FreightDogs 03-12-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by journeybird (Post 2546811)
Thanks for answering all the questions, very helpful.

I'm at ~1900TT, 132ME, hold ATP ME but no type or turbine time. We are possibly moving to SEA area, what options exist for me if I were to get through interviewing?

What could I expect as far as a weekly schedule goes?

Thanks for any clarifying info :)

Hi, there!

With your ME and lack of Turbine, we'd consider you for a BE99 Captain position.
BE99 Captain: 1,200 TT, 150 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument

Transitioning up to a BE1900 wouldn't take you too long. It would just be a matter of getting those additional hours.
BE1900 Captain: 1,800 TT, 250 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 100 instrument, 100 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience

Here's a link to apply for a BE99 Captain position at BFI (about 9 miles from SEA airport): Captain Beech 99 Cargo Pilot - Careers At Ameriflight, LLC

Our typical schedule is Monday through Friday, morning to evening.

Hope that helps!

FreightDogs 03-12-2018 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2548237)
FO hours don't count towards ATP in the EMB120? Doesn't EMB120 require 2 crew members? :confused:

No worries, EMB120 FO hours do count toward your ATP!

BE99 FO hours do not since a First Officer is not required in that aircraft. FOs in that aircraft are involved in the Accelerated Captain Program.

Hope that helps!

FreightDogs 03-12-2018 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2549147)
Do the pilots physically load and unload the cargo? :confused:

Nope, the pilots do not load or unload the cargo.They used to, but we changed that last year.
The person who drops off or picks up the cargo (our customer) loads and unloads the plane.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-12-2018 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2549182)
Nope, the pilots do not load or unload the cargo.They used to, but we changed that last year.
The person who drops off or picks up the cargo (our customer) loads and unloads the plane.

There are a couple of runs where we still have to move the freight to the door. This is primarily on the "glow flights" where it will only be few boxes (at about 50 lbs each.) The contract couriers take the boxes from the door to their trucks.

For UPS, FedEx and DHL the customer does provide the man power to unload the aircraft.

Jdub2 03-12-2018 02:52 PM

My class date is April 2nd, hope I see some of y'all there!

jonnyjetprop 03-13-2018 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2549182)
Nope, the pilots do not load or unload the cargo.They used to, but we changed that last year.
The person who drops off or picks up the cargo (our customer) loads and unloads the plane.

I remember the days of loading and offloading 3400 lbs. of cargo from a BE99 back in the 1980's. Glad to hear it has changed.

aajones5 03-14-2018 04:29 PM

So from what I understand from your reply you have to put in an application? Can people be rejected from the program when they apply and if so for what reasons? Also if you complete the program do you get a guaranteed job with UPS or a guaranteed interview? I'm asking because my ultimate goal is to work for UPS and I think Ameriflight would be a great first job to get there.

colonials13 03-14-2018 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2549182)
Nope, the pilots do not load or unload the cargo.They used to, but we changed that last year.
The person who drops off or picks up the cargo (our customer) loads and unloads the plane.

Don't suppose there's going to be any new bases opening in the near future, is there? Thanks.

Iregretnothing 03-15-2018 05:40 AM

Hours
 
Typically, how many hours a month are home based captains flying?

FreightDogs 03-15-2018 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2550820)
So from what I understand from your reply you have to put in an application? Can people be rejected from the program when they apply and if so for what reasons? Also if you complete the program do you get a guaranteed job with UPS or a guaranteed interview? I'm asking because my ultimate goal is to work for UPS and I think Ameriflight would be a great first job to get there.

Yes, you have to put in an application. It's for paperwork purposes to kick off the program. After that, leaders from AMF will decide if you should be placed in it. To be in the program, you have to be in good standing with AMF - so not too many sick calls, not too many write ups, not too many training failures, etc.
Formally, it's a guaranteed interview. During the program, you have to meet a series of benchmarks - leadership, personal, professional, etc. Those are outlined for you and you'll have to lead it. Your 12 month mentorship (where you'll have a UPS Captain mentor and be immersed in the UPS culture) and jet transition course is also a big part. If you get through the program, you have a guaranteed interview. Formally, that's all we can guarantee, but looking at everything that goes into it, it's your job to lose. To give you a little more comfort, you'll be connected with UPS the whole time, so it isn't likely that you'll suddenly become undesirable.

FreightDogs 03-15-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by colonials13 (Post 2550974)
Don't suppose there's going to be any new bases opening in the near future, is there? Thanks.

No solid plans at the moment, but we do have Home-Based Captain positions! :)

FreightDogs 03-15-2018 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 2551115)
Typically, how many hours a month are home based captains flying?

Hi, there!

It depends on which routes you are on, of course. Our non-pilots, typically fly 60 hours per month. With the extra time off, Home-Based Captains could probably expect to average 40 flight hours per month.

Hand Commander 03-15-2018 07:49 AM

"not too many write ups" Do you mean airplane write ups or disciplinary employee write ups? You should be crystal clear on that.

Avgeek7248 03-15-2018 08:15 AM

What routes do the EMB-120's fly and how long are the flight on average? I'm a CFI looking to get into ameriflight as an FO on the 120 but I've heard you can't log SIC time in the 120. If thats the case I may have to wait and apply for accelerated captain.

FreightDogs 03-15-2018 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Hand Commander (Post 2551243)
"not too many write ups" Do you mean airplane write ups or disciplinary employee write ups? You should be crystal clear on that.

Disciplinary.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-15-2018 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Avgeek7248 (Post 2551269)
What routes do the EMB-120's fly and how long are the flight on average? I'm a CFI looking to get into ameriflight as an FO on the 120 but I've heard you can't log SIC time in the 120. If thats the case I may have to wait and apply for accelerated captain.

If you want to be logging the time quicker, the 120 is the route to go. E120 FO time is loggable for everything since the 120 is certified to require two pilots. The Accelerated Captain Program (ACP) pilots are NOT able to log their FO time for things like ATP or other ratings since the BE99 does not require an SIC. It is loggable toward total time to meet part 135 times (TT, CC, Nt, Inst.)

FreightDogs 03-15-2018 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Avgeek7248 (Post 2551269)
What routes do the EMB-120's fly and how long are the flight on average? I'm a CFI looking to get into ameriflight as an FO on the 120 but I've heard you can't log SIC time in the 120. If thats the case I may have to wait and apply for accelerated captain.

You CAN log SIC time in the EMB120, because we are required to have an FO in that aircraft. No worries on that end. :)
We have EMB120 routes flying out of BFI, ONT, PDX, PHX, BQN, and SLC.

Looking at a few of the routes now, it looks like they vary in flight hours per month. I see a few 40s per month, 45s per month, and 50s per month. Hopefully, that gives you an idea!

Avgeek7248 03-15-2018 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2551285)
If you want to be logging the time quicker, the 120 is the route to go. E120 FO time is loggable for everything since the 120 is certified to require two pilots. The Accelerated Captain Program (ACP) pilots are NOT able to log their FO time for things like ATP or other ratings since the BE99 does not require an SIC. It is loggable toward total time to meet part 135 times (TT, CC, Nt, Inst.)

Ah, thanks that answers my main concern. I'm a young guy just trying to get to the regionals by the time I turn 21 and i've heard AMF was good but then heard you couldn't log SIC on the bro. As long as I get to fly my brains out i'll be a happy man.

aajones5 03-15-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2551145)
Yes, you have to put in an application. It's for paperwork purposes to kick off the program. After that, leaders from AMF will decide if you should be placed in it. To be in the program, you have to be in good standing with AMF - so not too many sick calls, not too many write ups, not too many training failures, etc.
Formally, it's a guaranteed interview. During the program, you have to meet a series of benchmarks - leadership, personal, professional, etc. Those are outlined for you and you'll have to lead it. Your 12 month mentorship (where you'll have a UPS Captain mentor and be immersed in the UPS culture) and jet transition course is also a big part. If you get through the program, you have a guaranteed interview. Formally, that's all we can guarantee, but looking at everything that goes into it, it's your job to lose. To give you a little more comfort, you'll be connected with UPS the whole time, so it isn't likely that you'll suddenly become undesirable.

So the main requirement is to be in good standing with Ameriflight which leads me to the ask is there a certain amount of time you need to be employed before you can apply?

FreightDogs 03-16-2018 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2551701)
So the main requirement is to be in good standing with Ameriflight which leads me to the ask is there a certain amount of time you need to be employed before you can apply?

Yes, correct. That's the main requirement to get into the program. But of course once you are in, there's a list of benchmarks you must meet to successfully complete it.

Once you are employed with us, you can put your resume/name in the hat after you complete training (about 6 weeks).

undflyboy06 03-16-2018 11:16 AM

Looks like an Ameriflight BE-99 went off the runway in Hastings, NE early this morning. Great news is Pilot and copilot are OK with NO injuries.

Plane crashes at Hastings airport | News | hastingstribune.com


http://nebraska.tv/news/local/city-o...plane-reported

FreightDogs 03-16-2018 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by undflyboy06 (Post 2552145)
Looks like an Ameriflight BE-99 went off the runway in Hastings, NE early this morning. Great news is Pilot and copilot are OK with NO injuries.

Plane crashes at Hastings airport | News | hastingstribune.com


Investigation into crash at Hastings airport underway | KHGI

That's true. It happened this morning. Everyone is okay.

endlessnight 03-16-2018 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2552195)
That's true. It happened this morning. Everyone is okay.

Glad no one got hurt.

mdiepenbroek 03-18-2018 05:10 PM

Hello. Is there a recruiter I can get in touch with? I was considering applying at the end of summer when I reach BE99 captain minimums, but I'm thinking of applying earlier since I'm already at the ACP mins. Thank you.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-19-2018 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by mdiepenbroek (Post 2553652)
Hello. Is there a recruiter I can get in touch with? I was considering applying at the end of summer when I reach BE99 captain minimums, but I'm thinking of applying earlier since I'm already at the ACP mins. Thank you.

Send FreightDogs a PM. She can put you in touch.

mdiepenbroek 03-19-2018 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2553918)
Send FreightDogs a PM. She can put you in touch.

Thank you!

colonials13 03-19-2018 11:44 AM

Any EMB-120 pilots out there that commute from PIT?

FlightLife 03-19-2018 12:02 PM

Class Dates
 
Can someone share class start dates for June, July, and August time frame?
Thanks.

frmrbuffdrvr 03-19-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by FlightLife (Post 2554163)
Can someone share class start dates for June, July, and August time frame?
Thanks.

Our Indoc classes start on the first Monday of each month.

aajones5 03-19-2018 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDogs (Post 2552007)
Yes, correct. That's the main requirement to get into the program. But of course once you are in, there's a list of benchmarks you must meet to successfully complete it.

Once you are employed with us, you can put your resume/name in the hat after you complete training (about 6 weeks).

Do you happen to know the rough percentage of people that get into the program from those who apply?

frmrbuffdrvr 03-19-2018 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by aajones5 (Post 2554454)
Do you happen to know the rough percentage of people that get into the program from those who apply?

That's hard to say because the program just went active about 2 months ago and the first couple of candidates entered the Mentor phase. None of our pilots have actually gone to UPS yet through the program. These ones should hire onto UPS first quarter of next year.

pilotue 03-20-2018 04:18 AM

1000-1200 Range
 
If one has anywhere between 1000 and 1200 hours what position would they likely be hired for? This amount of hours is higher than the ACP 800-1000 range, however still below the 135 1200h minimum.


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