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frmrbuffdrvr 11-23-2016 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2248345)
Doesn't apply to cargo operators. Most AMF aircraft are barely functioning so having them all require autopilots would probably bankrupt the company.

That was uncalled for. You could have left it at the first sentence (and been informational) but you had to get you biased, opinionated crap in as well, didn't ya.

Jetlife 11-23-2016 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2248671)
That was uncalled for. You could have left it at the first sentence (and been informational) but you had to get you biased, opinionated crap in as well, didn't ya.

Sorry if the truth upsets you princess, let's get back to talking about real stuff, like UPS flow right?

VASBYT 11-23-2016 04:14 PM

Ipad
 
Anyone here from AMF use an iPad while flying? If so, which iPad and app are you using, and what adapter are you using to secure it.

own nav 11-23-2016 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2248701)
Sorry if the truth upsets you princess, let's get back to talking about real stuff, like UPS flow right?

You went on a little rant about "lies" a few weeks ago, now time for you to own up to it. Enough with the name calling as well. The personal attacks don't advance your agenda, just makes you look like a jerk as usual.

own nav 11-23-2016 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by VASBYT (Post 2248935)
Anyone here from AMF use an iPad while flying? If so, which iPad and app are you using, and what adapter are you using to secure it.

They're not approved yet. There is a plan to start using them, but the exemption that allows them is changing, so the plans are on hold. If a pilot is using an Ipad, it is without approval. On the other hand, I haven't seen any kind of enforcement of the issue FWIW.

own nav 11-23-2016 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by joepilot (Post 2248158)
FAR 135.100 requires a second-in-command pilot for operations under IFR. FAR 135.105 provides an exemption for single pilot operation if there is an operable autopilot and the company jumps thru a few hoops.

If the aircraft dispatches with the autopilot inop, then the regulations require the second pilot, and that particular SIC time would be loggable for all purposes, including qualifying for the ATP.

Joe

The autopilots are deferrable for single pilot cargo operations, no SIC required with the exception of Canadian operations. Jetlife has no insider information, only outdated and second hand info. He left a now extinct base years ago. The company was sold and management has virtually flipped. Funny thing is, the guy I thought he was really mad at left earlier this year.

sobo 11-24-2016 08:50 AM

Have any AMF pilots here jumpseated with Jetblue?

Twice now I've heard from guys that we can. Officially, we don't have a reciprocal though. So i'm torn if I want to try for it.

Jetlife 11-24-2016 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2249084)
The autopilots are deferrable for single pilot cargo operations, no SIC required with the exception of Canadian operations. Jetlife has no insider information, only outdated and second hand info. He left a now extinct base years ago. The company was sold and management has virtually flipped. Funny thing is, the guy I thought he was really mad at left earlier this year.

You can sell anything you want online, the lack of people coming in the door, and the flood of those leaving should speak volumes. But you're right, I have no insider information lol. All the airplanes are expertly and professionally maintained to the highest caliper humanly possible. They aren't clapped out hunks of bolts. For somebody that works for AMF you really live in a bubble, which isn't a shock as you are 1 of only 6 happily employed management types out of the thousands that have gone through the doors there.

own nav 11-24-2016 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2249409)
You can sell anything you want online, the lack of people coming in the door, and the flood of those leaving should speak volumes. But you're right, I have no insider information lol. All the airplanes are expertly and professionally maintained to the highest caliper humanly possible. They aren't clapped out hunks of bolts. For somebody that works for AMF you really live in a bubble, which isn't a shock as you are 1 of only 6 happily employed management types out of the thousands that have gone through the doors there.

Not mangement, you are on a roll when it comes to false assumptions. The part where you assumed AMF is on the verge of bankruptcy deserves a reality check.

TransMach 11-25-2016 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2248619)
If they flew any DHL work yesterday out of CVG, that's not gonna be good.

That's BS. It isn't struck work. Bring a B767 or other large airplane on property and fly a trip that was being flown by ABX Air, that's truck work. Carrying DHL cargo on a Metro isn't.

TM

own nav 11-25-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by TransMach (Post 2249628)
That's BS. It isn't struck work. Bring a B767 or other large airplane on property and fly a trip that was being flown by ABX Air, that's truck work. Carrying DHL cargo on a Metro isn't.

TM

There are unionized carriers out of CVG who threw in their support and didn't fly their routes either (ie Southern), good for them, sounds like a worthy cause to me. Agreed you don't pick up struck work, but the idea that they can mark you as a scab for flying your own contract... someone explain it to me, I'm listening.

frmrbuffdrvr 11-25-2016 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2249409)
You can sell anything you want online, the lack of people coming in the door, and the flood of those leaving should speak volumes. But you're right, I have no insider information lol. All the airplanes are expertly and professionally maintained to the highest caliper humanly possible. They aren't clapped out hunks of bolts. For somebody that works for AMF you really live in a bubble, which isn't a shock as you are 1 of only 6 happily employed management types out of the thousands that have gone through the doors there.

I've never said the planes were perfect. They're old and need constant work. But I can't think of any that I would refer to as "bucket of bolts."

As for the autopilots, every type rated aircraft has one. Some work better than others. I don't know a percentage, but many BE99s have them as well. In fact, we were the company that loaned a BE99 to S-Tech so they could develop the STC to put their autopilots IN a BE99.

BTW, I think you meant caliber, not caliper.

frmrbuffdrvr 11-25-2016 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by TransMach (Post 2249628)
That's BS. It isn't struck work. Bring a B767 or other large airplane on property and fly a trip that was being flown by ABX Air, that's truck work. Carrying DHL cargo on a Metro isn't.

TM

Good to see you're still skimming the boards, TM. ;)

When you gonna be in Dallas? Or SAT, since I'm spending about half my time down there these days. We need to get a bite and catch up.

godsnotapilot 11-26-2016 08:58 AM

Does any body know if there are opportunities to pick up extra shifts or any other ways to make extra money while working at Ameriflight?

own nav 11-26-2016 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by godsnotapilot (Post 2250308)
Does any body know if there are opportunities to pick up extra shifts or any other ways to make extra money while working at Ameriflight?

Yes. TDY, repositioning, extra legs, a sixth day on nonoutstation based based run, fly with Eagle Jet FOs.... It all adds up to thousands on top of your base pay.

KSCessnaDriver 11-26-2016 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by TransMach (Post 2249628)
That's BS. It isn't struck work. Bring a B767 or other large airplane on property and fly a trip that was being flown by ABX Air, that's truck work. Carrying DHL cargo on a Metro isn't.

TM

Carrying DHL cargo on a route that they don't normally fly certainly could be struck work...

Jetlife 11-26-2016 11:17 AM

If a Metro, or any plane for that matter, flew work that an ABX 767 would have normally flown that day out of CVG, that is flying struck work, no room for argument. Not saying that happened at all, but that is absolutely struck work, and if that occurred, rest assure 1224 and the pilot group will make it very public, with names.

USMCFLYR 11-26-2016 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2250405)
If a Metro, or any plane for that matter, flew work that an ABX 767 would have normally flown that day out of CVG, that is flying struck work, no room for argument. Not saying that happened at all, but that is absolutely struck work, and if that occurred, rest assure 1224 and the pilot group will make it very public, with names.

KCD said 'on a route that they normally wouldn't fly' - and that seems to make sense. But you seem to elude to that if they flew additional cargo to one of their locations that ABX might also fly to would be flying struck work. Is that correct?

If so - - I've wondered about this in the past.
That sounds like you are saying that if Delta went on strike and I wanted to get to DC, but I instead flew on United - then United flew struck pax.

Jetlife 11-26-2016 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2250588)
KCD said 'on a route that they normally wouldn't fly' - and that seems to make sense. But you seem to elude to that if they flew additional cargo to one of their locations that ABX might also fly to would be flying struck work. Is that correct?

If so - - I've wondered about this in the past.
That sounds like you are saying that if Delta went on strike and I wanted to get to DC, but I instead flew on United - then United flew struck pax.

No no, what I am saying is that ABX conducted the strike in CVG. Any work that would have normally been on an ABX flight that was flown out by another airplane, is flying struck work.

If Delta went on strike, and you as a United pilot crossed the picket line to go fly, I wouldn't want to be anywhere around you. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Now if a United crew was tasked to fly Delta passengers because Delta was on strike, yes that would be scabbing.

I am not implying that AMF did anything wrong, but the lines could be blurred pretty easily. Flying any DHL supported runs out of CVG could easily be considered flying struck work.

USMCFLYR 11-27-2016 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2250594)
No no, what I am saying is that ABX conducted the strike in CVG. Any work that would have normally been on an ABX flight that was flown out by another airplane, is flying struck work.

If Delta went on strike, and you as a United pilot crossed the picket line to go fly, I wouldn't want to be anywhere around you. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Now if a United crew was tasked to fly Delta passengers because Delta was on strike, yes that would be scabbing.

I am not implying that AMF did anything wrong, but the lines could be blurred pretty easily. Flying any DHL supported runs out of CVG could easily be considered flying struck work.

Exactly.......
I'm on Delta flight (or booked on Delta) - the strike happens and I am rebooked on United. You would consider United to be flying 'struck work'?

When you say 'tasked to fly Delta passengers' - give me a scenario here.

How might the crew even know which passengers (or cargo for that matter) might have been rerouted and is actually 'struck work'?

Jetlife 11-27-2016 02:14 PM

Who's rebooking you? Your company? Or is Delta putting you on a United flight?

Jetlife 11-27-2016 02:20 PM

To answer your question on "how would they know" is that the best way to know is to error on the side of caution. I'm pretty sure Falcon Air found this out the hard way during the Spirit strike. If it smells remotely fishy, don't fly it.

Will there be scenarios where a passenger who was on that Delta flight that is now canceled because of a strike, buys a ticket on United to get where they're going? Sure, is that struck work? No.

We can think of grey area scenarios all day long but it doesn't really apply here. Any cargo that was to be carried out by ABX that day is struck work.

godsnotapilot 12-01-2016 12:44 PM

Accelerated FO?

sobo 12-02-2016 11:03 AM

Just announced, we now have a reciprocal jumpset with Fedex.

To date we have the following: Fedex, UPS, Southwest, Virgin America, Skywest, Atlas/Polar, Mokulele, Western Global, Allegiant Air, Seaborne, Southern Air, and Spirit.

WesternSkies 12-02-2016 06:53 PM

Your pilots do not have a reciprocal with SkyWest pilots.

own nav 12-02-2016 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2254668)
Your pilots do not have a reciprocal with SkyWest pilots.

Whether there is a reciprocal agreement or not, I have flown Delta Connection Skywest, no problem. United Express might be a different story.

AboveAndBeyond 12-03-2016 11:25 AM

If you AND your family can not go to the airport and fly for free to Europe or Asia, I would not call them real flight benefits and isn't really even worth mentioning.

Some individual pilots may let you on Delta or United flights, but there is no written reciprocal agreement.

Jetlife 12-03-2016 12:28 PM

You can jump seat on anyone that will let you.

WesternSkies 12-03-2016 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2254704)
Whether there is a reciprocal agreement or not, I have flown Delta Connection Skywest, no problem. United Express might be a different story.

The answer is no there is not.

own nav 12-03-2016 03:07 PM

There is more to it than a blind shot in the dark request on Skywest. There has been work done behind the scenes. Check in at Delta, it works, United, proabably not. Troll on.

Jetlife 12-03-2016 03:18 PM

Reciprical, flow.... Words that you don't have to get right eh?

frmrbuffdrvr 12-04-2016 07:53 AM

Has anyone ever heard of the play "Much Ado About Nothing"?

That's kind of how I feel about the last page of comments. Brings absolutely nothing (except the announcement that we can now list to ride on FedEx) to the discussion of the merits or not of coming to work at Ameriflight. Which is what I thought this thread was about.

Just my 2 cents. Or I guess $2 in todays money compared to when I was growing up.

own nav 12-04-2016 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2255196)
Reciprical, flow.... Words that you don't have to get right eh?

I stand corrected.

own nav 12-04-2016 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 2255542)
Has anyone ever heard of the play "Much Ado About Nothing"?

That's kind of how I feel about the last page of comments. Brings absolutely nothing (except the announcement that we can now list to ride on FedEx) to the discussion of the merits or not of coming to work at Ameriflight. Which is what I thought this thread was about.

Just my 2 cents. Or I guess $2 in todays money compared to when I was growing up.

I hear you. Have to sift through a ton of Amerihate coming from a small handful of dedicated trolls to get what you want to know, but without the "contoversy" we don't have a lot of discussion and this would basically be an announcement board.

If someone can get a good idea of the negatives in this board and else where, and still find the job appealing, they are going to make a good coworker.

sobo 12-05-2016 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2255132)
The answer is no there is not.

That's odd because I jumpseat on Skywest DBA Alaska all the time. I got that jumpseat list from a memo from our Jumpseat coordinator BTW.

Safety 12-06-2016 05:12 AM

Some people will always say negative things, I suppose that is what defines a "troll"? I hope that does not discount the legitimate accounts by pilots who have had bad experiences with AMF.

own nav 12-06-2016 05:44 AM

There's more to trolls than just sharing negative stories. Examples would include stirring up controversy based on hypotheticals. In the last couple months these examples would include the assertion that AMF could potentially fly struck work, and the notion that those who go through eagle jet to gain access to our right seat fit the definition of an employee and should have the benefits thereof. Neither of which have any merit, just looking for an excuse to stir up controversy. Look up the definition of an internet troll on wikipedia and tell me I am wrong.

zondaracer 12-06-2016 07:15 AM

Ameriflight is listed on the SkyWest Jumpseat agreement list.

Jetlife 12-06-2016 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 2256833)
There's more to trolls than just sharing negative stories. Examples would include stirring up controversy based on hypotheticals. In the last couple months these examples would include the assertion that AMF could potentially fly struck work, and the notion that those who go through eagle jet to gain access to our right seat fit the definition of an employee and should have the benefits thereof. Neither of which have any merit, just looking for an excuse to stir up controversy. Look up the definition of an internet troll on wikipedia and tell me I am wrong.

Yea, that damn notion that EagleJet FOs pay a buttload of money to fly in the right seat of an AMF airplane, only to be left in the FBO all day or bumped when you need to shove another 120lbs of boxes in the airplane so they then sit in the FBO overnight. I hate that too, why treat humans with decency and respect right?

Call me a troll all you want, but I am not the one spreading things that aren't true. You speak ONLY from the position of wearing rose colored glasses and you conveniently leave the details that would deter from you positively spinning every situation you write about. If anything, you are the troll.

own nav 12-06-2016 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2256981)
Yea, that damn notion that EagleJet FOs pay a buttload of money to fly in the right seat of an AMF airplane, only to be left in the FBO all day or bumped when you need to shove another 120lbs of boxes in the airplane so they then sit in the FBO overnight. I hate that too, why treat humans with decency and respect right?

Call me a troll all you want, but I am not the one spreading things that aren't true. You speak ONLY from the position of wearing rose colored glasses and you conveniently leave the details that would deter from you positively spinning every situation you write about. If anything, you are the troll.

See what I mean, yep, we have established that you are indeed a troll.


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