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Old 01-02-2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Track on flight aware was a constant turn to the right, not that it means anything (because it's several miles of distance) or is accurate.
The direction of travel at impact was about due south. Which, again, doesn't really tell us what was happening. Certainly not consistent with Flightaware.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:06 PM
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Maybe things changed since I flew there but I never heard of anyone actually getting deiced at APA while I was there. KLA did supply a small ice scrapper and some rags though.
That ^^^^is criminal behavior. I've never heard the first good thing about KLA.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
That ^^^^is criminal behavior. I've never heard the first good thing about KLA.
Whats amazing is that when I was flying out of APA (and FTG) 15+ years ago, KLA was considered the "more reputable" of the piston twin freight ops at the time.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Whats amazing is that when I was flying out of APA (and FTG) 15+ years ago, KLA was considered the "more reputable" of the piston twin freight ops at the time.
That is among the most terrifying bits of information I've ever heard.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by brian434
That is among the most terrifying bits of information I've ever heard.
True, but keep in mind, EVERYTHING is relative........
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Old 01-02-2015 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by clipperskipper
These engines require extra care and feeding, particularly when cold. Was a proper runup, including cycling the props performed? The pilot indicated that he would be "ready reaching" makes me think otherwise.
A windmilling propeller will cost about 400 fpm, something else to consider.
True and good points. Most cold weather damage I've seen on torn-down engines is cumulative though, not acute. Again, not trying to say anything either way. Hopefully everyone can learn something from this accident.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
True and good points. Most cold weather damage I've seen on torn-down engines is cumulative though, not acute. Again, not trying to say anything either way. Hopefully everyone can learn something from this accident.
Agreed. If this engine did quit due to mechanical issues rather than fuel starvation (ice in the lines ETC) I'm guessing it was probably something other than ambient temps. And there are plenty of other things that can go wrong with a Cont TSIGO (TGISO) (Whatever) 520. That engine is probably the most unreliable engine Continental ever built. Kind of like the Wright R 3350 PRT of the horizontally opposed engines. To many whirly gidets and diaphameter valves working against each other.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 06:18 PM
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To many whirly gidets and diaphameter valves working against each other.
It's all ball bearings these days.

R.I.P. to the guy and condolences to the family and those that knew him.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 12:14 PM
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Another key lime crash. Can't link it from my phone but these guys are going to run out of airplanes If they keep it up. It's on 9news.com
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Old 01-21-2015 | 12:34 PM
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Whew, looks like no loss of life this time thank goodness.

I am thinking the Navajo's crappy fuel setup is part of this one. You have 4 tanks to juggle, and other than looking down at the floor to double check what you select there is no warning if you miss the proper valve position. Turning two tanks off on one side is easy which you learn when the engine quits on that side. That leaves the other side which has two tanks, which usually only one of is set in supply mode. If it's the aux tank it can run dry quite easily.
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Small plane headed from Denver to Kansas crashes

(KUSA-TV, 01/21/15, Colby, KS) - The same company that was involved in a fatal plane crash in Centennial in December 2014 is in the headlines again after another one of their planes crashed in Kansas. Key Lime flight 169 was going from Denver to Colby, Kan,, which is about 10 miles northeast of Goodland. The pilot reported an engine problem and attempted to land on a road. The plane landed safely in a field. It had substantial damage. There were no injuries to the pilot or anyone on the ground. The crash is being investigated by Key Lime, the FAA and the NTSB.
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