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flyingagain 04-21-2018 08:19 AM

Anyone who is flying for WheelsUp comment on their impressions of the company provided health insurance?

If I read correctly, it's 100% paid for by company?

SOTA 04-21-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by flyingagain (Post 2577122)
Anyone who is flying for WheelsUp comment on their impressions of the company provided health insurance?

If I read correctly, it's 100% paid for by company?

It's very good. And 100% covered.

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Das Auto 04-22-2018 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by flyingagain (Post 2577122)
Anyone who is flying for WheelsUp comment on their impressions of the company provided health insurance?

If I read correctly, it's 100% paid for by company?

The health insurance is fantastic and premiums are 100% covered by the company, as is vision and dental for employees and their families.

Cyborgmudhen 04-22-2018 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Das Auto (Post 2577740)
The health insurance is fantastic and premiums are 100% covered by the company, as is vision and dental for employees and their families.

EXACTLY what SOTA and Das Auto said......

MiracleMets 05-02-2018 02:57 AM

Competitive Minimums
 
Good Morning everyone. I thought I read in a forum or possibly the company website for the hiring mins for King Air captain. Of course now I cant find that information. Can anyone tell me if 1000 pic in the king air 350 and 3000 total time would get a look?

EMAW 05-02-2018 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by MiracleMets (Post 2584492)
Good Morning everyone. I thought I read in a forum or possibly the company website for the hiring mins for King Air captain. Of course now I cant find that information. Can anyone tell me if 1000 pic in the king air 350 and 3000 total time would get a look?

Where’d you get the 1000 PIC on the 350? That may make a difference. Our 350s can be a very fast-paced operation.

MiracleMets 05-02-2018 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by EMAW (Post 2584528)
Where’d you get the 1000 PIC on the 350? That may make a difference. Our 350s can be a very fast-paced operation.

Flying overseas with one of the ISR companies on the 350.

EMAW 05-02-2018 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by MiracleMets (Post 2584840)
Flying overseas with one of the ISR companies on the 350.

Ok. We have a few of those guys in the ranks. Throw an app in, your time in type might allow leighway on your relatively low total time.

Eddard 05-02-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by MiracleMets (Post 2584492)
Good Morning everyone. I thought I read in a forum or possibly the company website for the hiring mins for King Air captain. Of course now I cant find that information. Can anyone tell me if 1000 pic in the king air 350 and 3000 total time would get a look?

Direct entry captain mins.
Total Time 3,500
PIC 2,000
MULTI 2,500
MULTI PIC 1,500
TURBINE 2,000
After 12 months the hours drop a little
But like EMAW said it could be adjusted for the right person.

AV810 05-06-2018 05:06 AM

GAMA pay SALARY or HOURLY ?
 
GAMA uses the word "salary" when advertising pay. Do they pay a flat salary regardless of how many hours, days, or trips you work? Or do they actually pay hourly? Any bonus or overtime rate when they tack on extra trips/days at the end of your schedule?

Eddard 05-06-2018 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by AV810 (Post 2587287)
GAMA uses the word "salary" when advertising pay. Do they pay a flat salary regardless of how many hours, days, or trips you work? Or do they actually pay hourly? Any bonus or overtime rate when they tack on extra trips/days at the end of your schedule?

Salary regardless of flight hours.
OT paid on top of salary. OT is a daily rate.

Cheeky Bastard 06-15-2018 10:24 PM

Move to the jet
 
Any idea how long it takes to move from 350i street captain to one of the Citations? Do you incur an additional training contract? Thanks.

EMAW 06-16-2018 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by Cheeky Bastard (Post 2615384)
Any idea how long it takes to move from 350i street captain to one of the Citations? Do you incur an additional training contract? Thanks.

There’s no set schedule. Not sure about the XL, but the X requires a contract.

hdgbug 06-16-2018 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Cheeky Bastard (Post 2615384)
Any idea how long it takes to move from 350i street captain to one of the Citations? Do you incur an additional training contract? Thanks.

Everyone I know of who has moved to the jet recently has been here for 3-4 years.

The jets are roughly 1/4 of the fleet or less and that is unlikely to change. If someone is not okay with flying the King Air for years, than this wouldn't be the place for them. This is a King Air program with a few jets sprinkled in.

MikeBates 06-18-2018 10:20 AM

Do you pack around your own headset while on your tour or are headsets provided?

phlying4fun 06-18-2018 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by MikeBates (Post 2616742)
Do you pack around your own headset while on your tour or are headsets provided?


We have Bose in the King Air.

Macjet 06-18-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by phlying4fun (Post 2616756)
We have Bose in the King Air.

Do you share underwear too?

CardboardCutout 06-18-2018 02:03 PM

Is there some advantage to flying the jet? I mean other than telling people you fly a jeeeeeeeet? It looks like the pay is the same.

ErnieBall99 06-18-2018 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 2616889)
Is there some advantage to flying the jet? I mean other than telling people you fly a jeeeeeeeet? It looks like the pay is the same.

An APU for ground A/C this time of year is a plus.

CardboardCutout 06-18-2018 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by ErnieBall99 (Post 2616979)
An APU for ground A/C this time of year is a plus.

What, they won't pay for a power cart? Takes me back to me Beatchjet days...

flyingagain 06-18-2018 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 2617004)
What, they won't pay for a power cart? Takes me back to me Beatchjet days...

I think what Ernie is saying is that the jet has the advantage of an APU for A/C on the ground. A power cart won't help cool a King Air. The only ground support equipment that would help is external air. Hangaring can be the right answer.

CardboardCutout 06-19-2018 07:45 AM

Do they do rolling rest?

phlying4fun 06-19-2018 07:59 AM

After the last flight of the day, Crew scheduling gives you your time off and time to report the next day. They will not allow you to be scheduled for more than 14 hrs on duty and also they make sure you have 10 hrs off duty. Many times the off duty time is 12-14 hrs.

MikeBates 06-19-2018 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by phlying4fun (Post 2617302)
After the last flight of the day, Crew scheduling gives you your time off and time to report the next day. They will not allow you to be scheduled for more than 14 hrs on duty and also they make sure you have 10 hrs off duty. Many times the off duty time is 12-14 hrs.

Good to see a company doing things right. Everything I've read on here says that you guys take training seriously. As well as pay, qol, benefits, and maintenance.

Das Auto 06-19-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 2616889)
Is there some advantage to flying the jet? I mean other than telling people you fly a jeeeeeeeet? It looks like the pay is the same.

Your parents will be way more proud of you, your social media page will be way more impressive, and the ladies will be more attracted to you if you fly the jet. That and it has an APU.

The pay is the same though.

CardboardCutout 06-19-2018 04:00 PM

Plus no more six hour transcons. Damn.

Das Auto 06-19-2018 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2616884)
Do you share underwear too?

What underwear? All King Air pilots fly commando.

flyingagain 06-21-2018 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by MikeBates (Post 2617446)
Good to see a company doing things right. Everything I've read on here says that you guys take training seriously. As well as pay, qol, benefits, and maintenance.

Agreed. Also I'd describe the training as more akin to airline than any 135 I've experienced. You go to sim once very 6 months and there's an annual recurrent at HQ. One of my complaints about other 135 operators I've worked for is training was a joke. Very impressed thus far with the Gama approach.

Busdriver91 06-21-2018 04:07 PM

IOE is definitely taken seriously. You can plan on getting 3 8-day tours with an instructor before getting set free. If you are a provisional captain then it will be one more tour with a check airman to complete your line check.

Kifaru 07-12-2018 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by flyingagain (Post 2617023)
A power cart won't help cool a King Air.

I prefer the C/E-90 in the summer. A/C compressor 24v in the nose.

hawkersaurus 08-11-2018 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 2617291)
Do they do rolling rest?


Originally Posted by phlying4fun (Post 2617302)
After the last flight of the day, Crew scheduling gives you your time off and time to report the next day. They will not allow you to be scheduled for more than 14 hrs on duty and also they make sure you have 10 hrs off duty. Many times the off duty time is 12-14 hrs.

....And then they contact you after your duty off time and tell you to report for duty earlier than you were told when you dutied off, so in reality: Yes, they do rolling rest.
They claim they don't, but they do. Oh, and the duty times phlying4fun is talking about are always given verbally, never in writing, so there is no proof or audit trail.

Eddard 08-11-2018 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by hawkersaurus (Post 2653443)
....And then they contact you after your duty off time and tell you to report for duty earlier than you were told when you dutied off, so in reality: Yes, they do rolling rest.
They claim they don't, but they do. Oh, and the duty times phlying4fun is talking about are always given verbally, never in writing, so there is no proof or audit trail.

Well your mistake for answering after being dutied off.

Busdriver91 08-11-2018 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by hawkersaurus (Post 2653443)
....And then they contact you after your duty off time and tell you to report for duty earlier than you were told when you dutied off, so in reality: Yes, they do rolling rest.
They claim they don't, but they do. Oh, and the duty times phlying4fun is talking about are always given verbally, never in writing, so there is no proof or audit trail.

If you answered your phone, that’s on you.

Starbucks 08-11-2018 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by hawkersaurus (Post 2653443)
....And then they contact you after your duty off time and tell you to report for duty earlier than you were told when you dutied off, so in reality: Yes, they do rolling rest.
They claim they don't, but they do. Oh, and the duty times phlying4fun is talking about are always given verbally, never in writing, so there is no proof or audit trail.

There’s no rolling rest. And no one is trying to trick anyone with duty times. Gimme a break. Don’t answer you phone in rest. Problem solved.

hawkersaurus 08-11-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Starbucks (Post 2653481)
There’s no rolling rest. And no one is trying to trick anyone with duty times. Gimme a break.

They fact that they are contacting you while in rest to change your duty times contradicts that claim. They may not unilaterally change you times if you stand your ground and don't answer, but they certainly try to trick into doing it.


Originally Posted by Starbucks (Post 2653481)
Don’t answer you phone in rest.

I don't. But every captain I have flown with does. Guess I'm not a "team player"

hdgbug 08-11-2018 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by hawkersaurus (Post 2653516)
They fact that they are contacting you while in rest to change your duty times contradicts that claim. They may not unilaterally change you times if you stand your ground and don't answer, but they certainly try to trick into doing it.

I don't. But every captain I have flown with does. Guess I'm not a "team player"

The company is well within their right to try to contact you during a rest period. It isn't a trick, it's part of the business of making planes move sometimes. I've had this happen less than a handful of times during my time here. Sometimes I've helped out, sometimes I haven't answered. Once they release you, you don't have any responsibility to respond to them or to even accept the new duty times if you do answer the phone. Rest is predetermined when you duty off, they can't change it without your acceptance.

As everyone else said, just don't answer. It's real easy now with the company issued phone, it goes on do not disturb the second I go off duty and does not turn on until I'm leaving the hotel.

It doesn't matter if your Captain answers the phone or not. Your rest and his/her rest are not tied together. Just like if they call fatigued doesn't mean you are calling fatigued. You have to accept the change yourself, don't let anyone else accept a change for you. Captains "speak" for you during a duty day because it is more efficient, but once off duty he or she should not be speaking for you.

Das Auto 08-12-2018 09:29 AM

There is no rolling rest period here. There have been a couple of instances where a crew has been released to the hotel but are still on duty for another couple of hours, then get the call to come back. That's the company being nice. They could have you wait it out at the FBO like NetJets does. If people want to throw their teddy out of their strollers when they get called back out, that's on them. If you're still on duty you're still on duty. If you've been dutied off you're free to turn your phone off, go for a jog, or sink a couple of cold ones if you have a 12 hour plus window.

There's good and bad wherever you go and its important give anyone coming here a realistic expectation of what life is like. This company is not perfect by any stretch, but when it comes to playing by the rules they are on it. If the paperwork is not 100% correct they will catch it and enforce it. They will not play the part 91 vs 135 card for repo legs after 14 hours on like a previous company I worked for tried. Max 14 hours duty, max 10 hour flight time, min 10 hours rest. I'm in my 4th year here now and have yet to see anything to the contrary.

Starbucks 08-12-2018 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by hawkersaurus (Post 2653516)
They fact that they are contacting you while in rest to change your duty times contradicts that claim. They may not unilaterally change you times if you stand your ground and don't answer, but they certainly try to trick into doing it.


I don't. But every captain I have flown with does. Guess I'm not a "team player"

What? Nobody is tricking anyone. I’d be the first to jump all over them for it if they did. Trust me. And I don’t answer during rest. However, If they call at 2359 and I’m off at 0000z. I’m answering. It’s part of the job. I’m not sure you know completely what “rolling rest” is.

Starbucks 08-12-2018 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Das Auto (Post 2653736)
There is no rolling rest period here. There have been a couple of instances where a crew has been released to the hotel but are still on duty for another couple of hours, then get the call to come back. That's the company being nice. They could have you wait it out at the FBO like NetJets does. If people want to throw their teddy out of their strollers when they get called back out, that's on them. If you're still on duty you're still on duty. If you've been dutied off you're free to turn your phone off, go for a jog, or sink a couple of cold ones if you have a 12 hour plus window.

There's good and bad wherever you go and its important give anyone coming here a realistic expectation of what life is like. This company is not perfect by any stretch, but when it comes to playing by the rules they are on it. If the paperwork is not 100% correct they will catch it and enforce it. They will not play the part 91 vs 135 card for repo legs after 14 hours on like a previous company I worked for tried. Max 14 hours duty, max 10 hour flight time, min 10 hours rest. I'm in my 4th year here now and have yet to see anything to the contrary.

This is 100% Acurate. I get frustrated a lot, but Gama definitely plays by the regs. The regs might suck, but that’s a different argument.

Cirrus2turbine 08-12-2018 10:30 AM

Fo tt?
 
Is Wheels Up only hiring FO's with ATP qualifications?


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