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Sanguy 10-28-2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by 339A (Post 2698879)
Working on this.... The International OPS took me most of the day today. Hope I don't have to do that again. :eek:

If you've finished the International part, you're done with the longest and most boring section. They say about 40-45 hrs to complete the entire CTS, but I think it's more like 60. Just git 'er done before class starts. You'll be glad you did.

pocho 10-31-2018 12:46 AM

Thanks for the info. Just completed the CTS, I truly feel for those who wait until ground school to finish it. The study guide they sent me looks like it has some good info in it, it's about 40 pages. Also, do I have access to systems slideshows through google drive? Can't seem to find much stuff on there.

MostlyHarmless 10-31-2018 10:45 AM

Once you have access to Lair, the slideshows will be in the training resources of the pilot section. Several days of ground school will be devoted to these slideshows. If you've been through them ahead of time, you'll learn much more in those sessions.

Pilot327 10-31-2018 11:39 AM

Hey Pocho! I'll be in the ground school Nov 5th also. Looks like I'll be heading to LAX after, hoping for PDX in the near future. I'm still grueling through CTS but definitely going to get it done before class.
Did you get this POH?

https://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/dat...-02211-R13.pdf

I know someone who is a pilot for Boutique and I'm going to see if he's got any materials that would be useful. I'll send you anything I get. Look forward to meeting you soon.

Moe96 10-31-2018 05:30 PM

Out of curiosity. Can someone who has some information let us know how many hours someone who really wants to fly can get while flying with boutique?

GearDwn 10-31-2018 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Moe96 (Post 2700845)
Out of curiosity. Can someone who has some information let us know how many hours someone who really wants to fly can get while flying with boutique?



I was off today and flew 76 this month as a PIC. The FOs are usually scheduled in the low 70s and pick up some extra shifts.


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Flaps8posrate 11-01-2018 12:34 AM

I know FOs who consistently flew 100 hours/month. Remember, there is a training commitment, so plan on metering your monthly hours to finish your employment with the hours you need to go elsewhere. Depending on your age and energy level, it can very tiring to fly 90-100+ hours/month.

Azorian 11-01-2018 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2700970)
I know FOs who consistently flew 100 hours/month. Remember, there is a training commitment, so plan on metering your monthly hours to finish your employment with the hours you need to go elsewhere. Depending on your age and energy level, it can very tiring to fly 90-100+ hours/month.

this.

i routinely see FOs flying 80-100 hours per month

Toddzilla 11-02-2018 10:54 AM

It depends a lot on your base, too.

If you're in Denver you can fly your face off and build time.

Portland FOs were around 60-70 at most while I was there.

PhxFlyer12 11-04-2018 08:09 AM

Just got the email saying I was put into their hired pool and waiting on a base to open up. I waited about a month and a half from when I did the technical interview.

V22Plopter 11-05-2018 09:02 PM

is this place 100% seniority based or could you come in and go PIC? How about scheduling. Base award etc...Someone want to PM the details.

dera 11-05-2018 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by V22Plopter (Post 2703655)
is this place 100% seniority based or could you come in and go PIC? How about scheduling. Base award etc...Someone want to PM the details.

They do hire PICs off the street.

V22Plopter 11-06-2018 12:03 AM

direct to king air?

dera 11-06-2018 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by V22Plopter (Post 2703675)
direct to king air?

Don't know about that one. They only have a few and the one in DAL never seems to fly, so not sure how much need they have.
For PC12 they seem to be hurting for PICs.

V22Plopter 11-06-2018 01:32 AM

Which is the best domicile for avoiding overnights or minimizing.

PhxFlyer12 11-06-2018 02:24 AM

Got the email that I was added to the hired pool. Currently in PHX so hoping for that base. Anyone else waiting in the pool?

Flaps8posrate 11-06-2018 06:16 AM

Street Captains are sought after at BTQ. If you have Part 135 Captain minimums or above, you’ll get a quick interview. And, if you live in a base that needs staffing, or are willing to move and talk halfway intelligently in your interview, you’ll have an offer. Not direct to King Air, that is seniority based and a long line. PC12 is a great airplane to fly.
Most all bases have overnights, but they are only one night away from home. It’s a pretty decent schedule for NOT commuting. There’s a lot of information in the BTQ threads if you look back.
What are your qualifications?

Originally Posted by V22Plopter (Post 2703655)
is this place 100% seniority based or could you come in and go PIC? How about scheduling. Base award etc...Someone want to PM the details.


Azorian 11-06-2018 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2703671)
They do hire PICs off the street.

Yes they hire street captains, probably not to the king air, but as a street captain you will be in master seniority order just like any other airline, so, you will have FOs who may upgrade and be senior to you. However i am seeing that a lot of the FOs hit just enough hours to bolt and they are gone

if you come in as a street captain, there is a good chance you will be reserve mostly for at least a couple of months. You may cover Boston one week, Atlanta the next, Los Angeles the next and get a trip or two in your home base scattered in there.

talking to FOs - the number one and number two reason they say they will refuse an upgrade is because (1) they dont want to be running all over the country to cover staffing and (2) they dont want to enter into another training contract when they can just leave and get a regional bonus and move on with their career.

The PC-12 is a fun bird. i have had a good time so far, if i had it to do over i may have said no to a training contract because that kinda sticks you. but i came to boutique because supposedly they could get you any base and you would get a lot of time at home... so far the none of the reasons i came here have panned out, but eventually they will i think

just make a smart decision, and think about it. you will probably get Pittsburgh or Boston pretty easily

Toddzilla 11-06-2018 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by V22Plopter (Post 2703675)
direct to king air?

I was offered direct PIC in the king air when I started, but I think that was a one-off since they were just getting the king airs started at the time. Definitely don't count on it.

colonials13 11-07-2018 09:11 AM

Does anyone know (generally) how often the FO application window opens up?

Thanks

Flaps8posrate 11-08-2018 05:06 AM

Never closes. They just don’t reply until they decide to pick your resume out of the nearly 2000 FO resumes they already have. Yeah, that’s cruel, but that is how it is there.
Send it in updated when you add more hours. Go to a base, meet a pilot, that might help.

colonials13 11-08-2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2704810)
Never closes. They just don’t reply until they decide to pick your resume out of the nearly 2000 FO resumes they already have. Yeah, that’s cruel, but that is how it is there.
Send it in updated when you add more hours. Go to a base, meet a pilot, that might help.

Thanks, appreciate it

frmrbuffdrvr 11-08-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2703678)
Don't know about that one. They only have a few and the one in DAL never seems to fly, so not sure how much need they have.
For PC12 they seem to be hurting for PICs.

Last week it was hanging out in Ameriflight's hanger at DFW.

WHDC 11-08-2018 10:55 AM

Can I ask, if I read your post correctly, you are only away approximately one night and home most evenings? Is this correct for the Atlanta base?

Sanguy 11-08-2018 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2704810)
Never closes. They just don’t reply until they decide to pick your resume out of the nearly 2000 FO resumes they already have. Yeah, that’s cruel, but that is how it is there.
Send it in updated when you add more hours. Go to a base, meet a pilot, that might help.

Actually, it is closed right now unless you have an internal rec. No FO resumes or apps taken through the website at the moment. The window will eventually open back up, but when is anybody's guess.


Originally Posted by WHDC (Post 2705005)
Can I ask, if I read your post correctly, you are only away approximately one night and home most evenings? Is this correct for the Atlanta base?

I haven't been to Atlanta, but if it's like most bases, it's about 50-50. You can let scheduling know your preference, but you will do overnights.

UhOhItsTheFiveO 11-08-2018 06:56 PM

Does the schedule work for a commuter? Say someone who would be wanting to commute from RDU to one of the east coast bases? I tried to look back in the pages and saw where Boutique has CASS privileges. Just curious if it is doable or worth it? Been instructing since May looking for a change from the 172. Thanks!

1V8R 11-15-2018 07:29 PM

Any opportunities for part-time pilots? Would like to stay in professional aviation but not interested in full-time necessarily.

Flaps8posrate 11-16-2018 06:23 PM

The only part time pilots are a couple super super senior pilots.


Originally Posted by 1V8R (Post 2709143)
Any opportunities for part-time pilots? Would like to stay in professional aviation but not interested in full-time necessarily.


thechaseh 11-23-2018 12:04 PM

Hours a month
 
For any PICs:

If I were hired today, how long can I expect to sit reserve for? Also, once off reserve, how many hours are you flying a month?

Thanks.

Flaps8posrate 11-24-2018 12:24 PM

First month, after your checkride, it will be 30-50 hours as they work you into a schedule and you gain familiarity with the plane and a particular outstation. Once you have mastered that route, they begin to send you elsewhere. 60-70+, regardless of reserve or not.

AZPilot21 11-25-2018 09:51 AM

Received an email about a month ago saying I was added to the pool for PC-12 FO. Anyone who got picked up from the hired pool remember roughly how long they waited?

Azorian 11-25-2018 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by thechaseh (Post 2712958)
For any PICs:

If I were hired today, how long can I expect to sit reserve for? Also, once off reserve, how many hours are you flying a month?

Thanks.

They hustled to get me off high minimums, so you can count on your first month as a PIC to be blow and go 80+ hours of flying, then when you hit 100 hours they kinda forget who you are.

Once i got off high minimums my entire schedule was built around commuting to almost every available base to cover short staffed trips, any time i wasnt doing that i was on reserve, 75% of the time it would be a last minute phone call to commute to BOS or LAX. 25% of the time it would be deadheading out to a maintenance base to pick up a plane and re-position it half way across the country

with boutique i dont think there is ever a time you are "off reserve" one look at the schedule reveals that almost everyone has at least a few days worth of it lovingly sprinkled into their reality.

I've seen some pretty senior captains have trips week one and two, reserve most of week three and suddenly trips again week four. of any given month.

on your schedule preference form you will fill out every month you can chose "no reserve" or "max reserve" but unless you are number one in base, i dont think those buttons actually do anything. :D

EDIT: its worth noting that the 14 days off a month got dropped to 11 days off, and you can no longer pick 12 you can only pick 6 now so theres that. Frankly, if i were someone who had 135 PIC minimums in the bag, id do something else for a couple of months for the time and go grab a bonus at the regionals rather than get tangled up in a training contract for a year.

GearDwn 11-25-2018 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by thechaseh (Post 2712958)
For any PICs:



If I were hired today, how long can I expect to sit reserve for? Also, once off reserve, how many hours are you flying a month?



Thanks.



I spent no time on reserve. Looking back over past 4 months, I had 2 days of reserve. I was never called in on either. I fly a line schedule and have had 11-14 days off each month. The last couple have been closer to 11. I have been flying averaging about 70 hours a month with about 10-11 nights away from home a month.

It obviously depends on your base, seniority, and company’s needs.

If you have past 121 or 135 experience then this is an easy job. The pilots with no real previous experience tend to complain a lot.

As the company’s needs change so will my schedule. It has been the same at every company I have worked at.

I live in base so my quality of life is good. I wouldn’t commute for this job as there are to many opportunities for pilots with more than ATP minimums.


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Azorian 11-25-2018 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2714014)
It obviously depends on your base, seniority, and company’s needs.

^ that exactly, i'd be willing to bet if one were Boston or LAX based they wouldn't even see a day of reserve from the DOH


Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2714014)
If you have past 121 or 135 experience then this is an easy job.

agreed, its cake


Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2714014)
I live in base so my quality of life is good. I wouldn’t commute for this job as there are to many opportunities for pilots with more than ATP minimums.

hammer - nail - head. if you want good QOL, you really need to consider living within a reasonable drive of your domicile - otherwise, if you are going to have to spend a couple of days a week commuting to your base via a long drive or via a jump-seat or something, it will get old in a major hurry

keep in mind, November's poorly staffed base could be horribly overstaffed in January, and a base that has way too many PICs in January might be a virtual PIC ghost town come March, it happens fast, but if your base is heavily staffed when you hit the line, reserve is a given. That is one advantage of being in an understaffed base and being new, you probably will get max in base flying and zero reserve. a surprising number of people i talk to think that if you are on reserve, you are on reserve for your base - boutique doesnt have that kind of staffing - if you are reserve, your base doesnt matter, you are reserve for the whole system. when you duty on at 0815, you might get a call back at 0817 with an assignment to deadhead anywhere in the system and your United flight departs at 0930. in my prior 121 experience, every base had it's own reserve guys - not really the case here

like the man says, there are currently too many opportunities for folks with ATP minimums to justify commuting for this kind of gig right now.

FlyingDawgg 11-28-2018 09:03 AM

Will there be any classes in December or January?

Flaps8posrate 11-28-2018 09:34 PM

To my knowledge, in the last year, there has been at least one class per month. Regular turnover drives it!

Originally Posted by FlyingDawgg (Post 2715498)
Will there be any classes in December or January?


Vapor1 11-29-2018 01:56 AM

How soon out of training would someone be able to get pdx based?

GearDwn 11-29-2018 03:56 PM

Boutique Air - Updated Info
 

Originally Posted by Vapor1 (Post 2715877)
How soon out of training would someone be able to get pdx based?



I’m pretty sure this is a Senior base for PIC. I know a Captain was waiting 6 months or more for this and he just got awarded it. Not sure on SIC.


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Stigmeister 12-06-2018 01:21 PM

Pc12 cockpit photo and tng materials
 
I am awaiting HR interview next week for direct hire PIC.Can anyone provide cockpit photos, checklists, CTP materials or POH info. Figured I would try to start studying up. Thanks
Also any info on PIT base appreciated

MaxMar 12-06-2018 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Stigmeister (Post 2720172)
I am awaiting HR interview next week for direct hire PIC.Can anyone provide cockpit photos, checklists, CTP materials or POH info. Figured I would try to start studying up. Thanks
Also any info on PIT base appreciated

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