Originally Posted by WHDC (Post 2753382)

Any idea about the Atlanta base? How many nights home?

Originally Posted by jjeppson (Post 2752459)

Is all PC-12 initial training done in Denver?
Yes
You stay in a house, not a hotel room? Yes
What are chances of getting DFW base as PC-12 CA?
Good-Fair. Depends on their need, as they hire for the bases that need to be staffed.
How many overnights a month?
Every first work day is an overnight, for the most part. The following day, you finish by early afternoon and spend the night; rinse and repeat (and repeat). You will do this cycle for several days, then have a couple-three days off. It’s not really comutable though.
Are junior CA's sitting on full month reserve?
Not really, but it is slow (35-40 hrs) your first month, as they begin to work you into the schedule. They usually break you in by letting you learn one (or two) routes, when you’ve mastered that and they are comfortable with you, they begin to let loose a bit and you begin to get more varied flying and 60-80 hours. (That is generally during your second month)
Good luck!

Thanks for info. Phone interview on Friday.

Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2752995)

Also, keep in mind that in the middle of your 4 or 5 day work week, they can add shifts if needed and you won’t receive extra pay unless you are over the 80 hour guarantee. For example, if scheduled out Monday on PM shift and overnight at outstation and then get up Tuesday and fly AM shift and then scheduled to show for Wed PM shift and overnight and then Thursday AM shift, this could change to Mon PM shift, Tues AM and PM shift overnight at outstation again then Wed AM and PM shift and overnight again and then Thurs AM shift and off for couple days. Just an example but does and will happen. If the base is short pilots will happen a lot more.



GearDwn Any idea what bases may be currently in need of pilots?

Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2753874)

I didn’t see this one coming... Probably a lot of cheap airframes available and friends who have flown it enjoyed it. Would certainly be interesting to fly the CATFISH:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...piaggio-avanti

No specifics about potential bases or how many airframes and over what timeframe....

Originally Posted by ZBowFlyz (Post 2756079)

Is there any current info on PDX? Are they just flying back and forth to PDT or are there more routes than that?

Originally Posted by Privateer383 (Post 2780151)

I'm a retired military pilot with 1400+ TT, RW & FW living in the Denver area. I'm enjoying my retirement but miss the cockpit and am thinking Boutique might be a "good-paying hobby" for a few years, or maybe even a second career. I saw the time line posted at the beginning of this thread in 2017 and am wondering about the current time line- from application to interview to job offer, for street Captains.

Is it pretty quick, or agonizingly slow?
If you meet 135 IFR mins, you get a job pretty quickly.
Depending on their needs at the time, you could hear back in a week or so.

What is a realistic expectation of time required to get into a Denver-based cockpit?
Depends on need. They have consistent turnover, so it is likely.
Is there a time of year when it is best to apply? / When is the greatest need?
Year ‘round. Be prepared to work hard with very little than legal rest on overnights.
Feel free to PM me

Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Privateer383 (Post 2780151)

I'm a retired military pilot with 1400+ TT, RW & FW living in the Denver area. I'm enjoying my retirement but miss the cockpit and am thinking Boutique might be a "good-paying hobby" for a few years, or maybe even a second career. I saw the time line posted at the beginning of this thread in 2017 and am wondering about the current time line- from application to interview to job offer, for street Captains.

Is it pretty quick, or agonizingly slow?

What is a realistic expectation of time required to get into a Denver-based cockpit?

Is there a time of year when it is best to apply? / When is the greatest need?

Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Anchorman (Post 2787582)

Can anyone confirm whether the current contract is 1 or 2 years? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Joebob21 (Post 2787683)

1 year if captain qualified

Originally Posted by Anchorman (Post 2788136)

Thanks , how about for FOs?

Originally Posted by Joebob21 (Post 2787683)

1 year if captain qualified

Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2788238)

Plan on 2 years and 14,000


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Originally Posted by GearDwn (Post 2788238)

Plan on 2 years and 14,000


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Originally Posted by majorpilot (Post 2788507)

Unless I’m missing something, this is for an aircraft that does NOT require a type rating AND with training that is done in the actual aircraft (not in a sim rented from a third party at significant expense). Doesn’t seem close to ballpark in current hiring market, but YMMV...

Originally Posted by Lolo30 (Post 2788633)

Does anyone that was recently hired by boutique air as a SIC know what the current training contracts are? Older posts say 10K for 1yr but recent post guys are saying 14k for 2 years? And if that’s true does it prorate down after a certain amount of time?

Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2788637)

In 135 and 121 operations, Opspecs rule, as they are approved by the FAA. Opspecs are controlling for issues such as allowing for SIC to log time. That is irrespective of whether or not the aircraft is certified for one or two pilots. Their Opspecs also allow single pilot with an operable autopilot.

BTQ has, apparently, reacted to their turnover by increasing the pain for FOs to leave early, hence the reported higher and longer contract amount. The PIC contract (12 months) prorates after 6 months. I would assume the FO contract prorates similarly.

Originally Posted by colonials13 (Post 2788738)

2 year/$14,000 for SICs is correct. After six months it goes down by $500 a month.

Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2788637)

In 135 and 121 operations, Opspecs rule, as they are approved by the FAA. Opspecs are controlling for issues such as allowing for SIC to log time. That is irrespective of whether or not the aircraft is certified for one or two pilots. Their Opspecs also allow single pilot with an operable autopilot.

BTQ has, apparently, reacted to their turnover by increasing the pain for FOs to leave early, hence the reported higher and longer contract amount. The PIC contract (12 months) prorates after 6 months. I would assume the FO contract prorates similarly.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2788841)

But prior to PDP, there was no "opspec" to require an SIC in single pilot planes.

Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2788872)

So many posts have beat this dead horse subject to smithereens, Why bother?

Originally Posted by Flaps8posrate (Post 2788872)

So many posts have beat this dead horse subject to smithereens, Why bother?

Originally Posted by majorpilot (Post 2788892)

What’s sad is how instead of focusing on making their shop a great place one wouldn’t want to leave, or incentivizing some to at least extend their stays, companies repeatedly address turnover punitively, reaching for the stick. It doesn’t work...when will they learn?

Originally Posted by BravoPapa (Post 2788745)

What happens if you were to upgrade to Captain in a year? That one is fulfilled and you sign the 1 year for Captain?

Originally Posted by Erj135dude (Post 2789783)

Hey guys. How easy is to get DEN out of training? (PIC).
Any junior bases right now, or they all need captains.

Originally Posted by BlueLine727 (Post 2790767)

Does anyone at Boutique commute? Not sure if its already been asked. Im in SoCal (1.5 hours from LAX) but I hear its tough to get LAX as a new pilot. Would PHX,DFW, or DEN be commutable? I got an interview for SIC but their new 2 year contract worried me

Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 2790950)

Boutique isn’t hiring SICs anymore.

Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 2790950)

Boutique isn’t hiring SICs anymore.

Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 2790950)

Boutique isn’t hiring SICs anymore.

Originally Posted by RBZL (Post 2283001)

No part time that I'm aware of. Series 10, /45 and /47.



If you've done so little research into a company that you're surprised about having to load bags as part of your job duties, that's on you. People that think they're above loading a few bags because "they're a pilot and they're better than that" are usually miserable to work with anyway, even if they weren't loading bags.

This is 135 - some days can be rough, but overall it's an easy job and I really have nothing to complain about. I've been here nearly four months and time has flown by.