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Old 04-21-2017, 01:32 PM
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I have Just got my Commercial Pilot Licence. (ASEL) I am studying to get my CFI,CFII. I am looking to Complete within a month. My Main issue is getting a sponsor to Work. I am From India right now on an H4 Visa. ( Legal to stay in U.S but not to Work). My school is ready to sponsor for my visa so that once I complete I can start working at the Flight school. I have contacted USCIS and even I have called AOPA but I am not able to get a breakthrough. If there are any other options Please let me know. I am looking to just built my Flight time. I can Fly for free. but need to know what visa can I get to Work Legally in U.S. I know it is a Unique case but I hope someone can help me.

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Old 04-21-2017, 04:50 PM
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H4 means you're a dependent of an H1B visa holder correct? One of your parents? You have the wrong visa for temporary work and probably should have switched to a F1 prior to starting flight training.
You need an experienced immigration attorney. Spend some money and go see 3-4 attorneys and pay for their advice.

http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/114432-change-of-H4-to-F1-visa
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:04 PM
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H4 means you're a dependent of an H1B visa holder correct? One of your parents? You have the wrong visa for temporary work and probably should have switched to a F1 prior to starting flight training.
You need an experienced immigration attorney. Spend some money and go see 3-4 attorneys and pay for their advice.

change of H4 to F1 visa
No need for M1/F1 for flight training towards CP/CFI/CFII.
To work as a CFI/commercial pilot, obviously needs a different category. But for flight training towards those certs, nope.
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If you work for free is not work, it's prostitution.
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Old 04-22-2017, 07:36 AM
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If you work for free is not work, it's prostitution.
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Old 04-22-2017, 10:02 AM
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No need for M1/F1 for flight training towards CP/CFI/CFII.
To work as a CFI/commercial pilot, obviously needs a different category. But for flight training towards those certs, nope.
I really can't even start to explain how wrong you are there.
So I'll skip that part.
F1 allows gaining 'practical work experience' which does NOT exclude flight instruction towards the ATP requirements.
But it does mean you need to be enrolled in relevant college courses.
Which 99% of the time means you should have gotten the F1 before enrolling and before starting your flight training and the training would have been included in the courses you enrolled for because other wise....you wouldn't have been able to legally undergo flight training.

https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/pilots/alien-flight-training-program/visa-information

You can't get an F1 after the fact and having completed your flight training for the sole purpose of gaining the 'practical work experience'.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
I really can't even start to explain how wrong you are there.
So I'll skip that part.
F1 allows gaining 'practical work experience' which does NOT exclude flight instruction towards the ATP requirements.
But it does mean you need to be enrolled in relevant college courses.
Which 99% of the time means you should have gotten the F1 before enrolling and before starting your flight training and the training would have been included in the courses you enrolled for because other wise....you wouldn't have been able to legally undergo flight training.

https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/pilots...sa-information

You can't get an F1 after the fact and having completed your flight training for the sole purpose of gaining the 'practical work experience'.
I'm not wrong.

CP/CFI/CFII don't even need the TSA security assessment, only initial private, instrument and multi do. You don't need a "visa" to do flight training. You need a visa to seek entry if the purpose of your visit is enrolling in a full time course of study.

You missed the whole point; Are you sure you fully understand what a visa is? I think you confuse visa, and status.

He can legally study with his H4, he's 100% compliant with everything at the moment. He obviously won't be able to switch to "F1" just to be able to "work". Flight school wouldn't sponsor him F1 to work as a flight instructor (if they do, that's fraud. I know it happens but most big schools use a different category for their foreign flight instructors). He'll just have to adjust his status for that.
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http://www.flyingmag.com/training/flight-school-getting-student-foreign-visa

https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/pilots/alien-flight-training-program/aliens-and-non-us-citizens-seeking-flight-training


http://www.nafinet.org/news.aspx?id=370

I can keep going.....
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
http://www.flyingmag.com/training/flight-school-getting-student-foreign-visa

https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/pilots...light-training


Update to Archived Story - TSA Clarifies Rules on Visa Permitted for Alien Pilots in Training

I can keep going.....
And you would still be wrong. You really have no clue because you are confusing two concepts here. Do you even read the links? They are just to clarify B1/B2 holders ineligibility to enroll on a course of study.

A H4 status allows you to do flight training - fact.
You don't need TSA security assessment to do training towards your CP-ASEL/CFI/CFII - fact.

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