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Old 08-19-2014, 06:59 PM
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I have read about Pacific Wings and do not really plan on applying with them for the scheduled flying, but I am wondering if their "Corporate" flying/QOL is any different from their scheduled flights?

They are advertising a need for PIC/SIC pilots for a corporate Caravan out of Miami, but is it really corporate or is this more of a bait and switch "you will fly corporate, actually we are going to put you in the scheduled ops..." type deal?

Anyone have any info on this aspect of their flying? I am starting to get really desperate now and if it is different than the scheduled side might look into it. Every single company I have applied to has come back as "500 is the absolute minimum we can take" even when I have experience in their field or time in type.

I have started to apply at Seaport, but I am still waiting on a letter of recommendation to be written for me so I can upload it to send in. Plus I just found out they just sent a class through August 4th, so I will be lucky if I am A) even picked up and B) have a class date soon
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Pacific Wings has no corporate flying. The Florida flying is charters down to the Carribbean in C208's. One thing I can assure you of though is that if Pacific Wings did indeed have corporate flying, part 91, it would be FAR WORSE than the scheduled operations. Remember, there are no duty/flight time limits in the 91 world.

Are you having problems finding work as a SIC under 135 with less than 500 hours? 500 hours is the minimum time for a VFR captain.

If you're willing to relocate try applying to Mokulele Airlines in Hawaii, they'll take you with 250.
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Pacific Wings has no corporate flying. The Florida flying is charters down to the Carribbean in C208's. One thing I can assure you of though is that if Pacific Wings did indeed have corporate flying, part 91, it would be FAR WORSE than the scheduled operations. Remember, there are no duty/flight time limits in the 91 world.

Are you having problems finding work as a SIC under 135 with less than 500 hours? 500 hours is the minimum time for a VFR captain.

If you're willing to relocate try applying to Mokulele Airlines in Hawaii, they'll take you with 250.
Yes, the places I have applied to or have inquired to all have said 500hrs is their min requirement or they have not responded. Seaport is the only one I have not been able to finish the application and send it in yet due to I am still waiting for my letter of recommendation from the person I asked to write it. I would love to fly with them as I have read nothing but good things from both pilots and passengers.

I'm currently flying Cessna 206's at a local drop zone on the weekend. However, it not a paid job, just time building. It's keeping me current, which before it I hadn't flown in 4 months, so I can't really complain, but I have been in between paying jobs since June, so I need to find some job that will pay.

I have added 100hours since June, all of which is in the 206. But even drop zones that need people and fly 206's said they need 500hrs min.

I have experience in warbirds as well, so I have a broad base of flight experience. I'm at 359hrs currently
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I'm currently flying Cessna 206's at a local drop zone on the weekend. However, it not a paid job, just time building.
You, sir, are not worthy of being employed as anything.

You are exactly what is wrong with aviation and any smart company would never hire someone willing to work for free, just unbelievable.
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You, sir, are not worthy of being employed as anything.

You are exactly what is wrong with aviation and any smart company would never hire someone willing to work for free, just unbelievable.
While I agree with you to a degree, I don't feel it's quite the same.

I do not have anything invested flying there. It's not a job, if I can't or don't want to fly that day, then I won't be flying. They just needed some extra help and I was available as I wasn't doing anything else anyways so I decided to do it. I get free food, free skydiving and free time in the air in return. Plus I already knew some of the people, so I get to hang out with friends and have made new friends since. Plus I have flown the best skydivers in this country, literally.

If I hadn't started flying there, I would have 100 less hours of flying and been 8.5months out of currency, which would mean a flying job is even further out of reach for me.

Now if you would like to give me $10,000, I will gladly take it and go get my CFI's and rent a plane for the next ~150hrs as you seem to think that is a more honorable method than what I am doing now...
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Originally Posted by Tpinks View Post
I'm currently flying Cessna 206's at a local drop zone on the weekend. However, it not a paid job, just time building. It's keeping me current, which before it I hadn't flown in 4 months, so I can't really complain, but I have been in between paying jobs since June, so I need to find some job that will pay.

I have added 100hours since June, all of which is in the 206. But even drop zones that need people and fly 206's said they need 500hrs min.

I have experience in warbirds as well, so I have a broad base of flight experience. I'm at 359hrs currently
It is called 'bartering', but at least when I did the same thing as you are doing - they offered $10/load or free skydiving lessons (this was in '89 though - seems a century ago ) flight time has its' own value of course and is considered compensation by the FAA if I have read and understood some of the different posts here on APC concerning this practice.

The last bolded part though - - well........at 359 hours of TT - you really don't have a broad base of experience in anything yet.
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The last bolded part though - - well........at 359 hours of TT - you really don't have a broad base of experience in anything yet.
True, I guess when I say that I mean it in reference to my peers and for the amount of time I do have. The guys who were in my classes more or less have flown 3-4 different planes at most.

I'm proficient in 14 different types and will be flying three new types by the end of the year. And if I am still around next year, I plan on being type rated in the C-47 I am actively restoring at the museum I volunteer at as well as continuing to fly our C-123.

And I'm sure there are people out there who have the same amount of time as me and have had a an even broader experience.
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True, I guess when I say that I mean it in reference to my peers and for the amount of time I do have. The guys who were in my classes more or less have flown 3-4 different planes at most.

I'm proficient in 14 different types and will be flying three new types by the end of the year. And if I am still around next year, I plan on being type rated in the C-47 I am actively restoring at the museum I volunteer at as well as continuing to fly our C-123.

And I'm sure there are people out there who have the same amount of time as me and have had a an even broader experience.
Your enthusiasm is recognized, however, you have a long, long, way to go. Best of luck.
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True, I guess when I say that I mean it in reference to my peers and for the amount of time I do have. The guys who were in my classes more or less have flown 3-4 different planes at most.

I'm proficient in 14 different types and will be flying three new types by the end of the year. And if I am still around next year, I plan on being type rated in the C-47 I am actively restoring at the museum I volunteer at as well as continuing to fly our C-123.

And I'm sure there are people out there who have the same amount of time as me and have had a an even broader experience.


OK -we must have widely different ideas of proficient Tpinks.

If you have 356 total hours with AT LEAST 100 of those being in the C-206, then that leaves 256 to divide by the remaining 13 types of aircraft that you claim proficiency in - - - making that an average 19.6 hrs in each type, which we know is no accurante due to the number of training hours that you must have in some of the more common type of trainers.

I had 20+ years of flying high performance trainers/fighters and I wouldn't say I was **proficient** in my current King Air until I had at least 500 hrs in it.
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Is the C-150 and C-152 two different types or is that one of them 757/767 deals?

This is my advice as I once was a right seater in a Caravan before. You will not make money sitting right seat in a Caravan. You will build time and experience but you under no circumstances will make money. Unless you go up to Alaska and fly those Caravans, you will instead be buying the 2 for $.99 Jack in The Box tacos. You'll eat one for lunch and save the other for dinner.
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