Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
03-05-2018, 01:28 PM
#1491
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 238
Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
DO NOT GIVE THEM HOT RSV. MK AND SK will OWN YOU if you give them that. If you’ve never sat it you don’t know how terrible it is. It will also open the door to a million grievances. I’m serious, this will backfire on you. You will get to sit after a round trip, hrs before a report for a trip etc. do not do it.
Some company’s do like 8 hours of hot reserve 4 hour is of pay. That’s not ok
03-05-2018, 01:47 PM
#1493
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 616
Originally Posted by Flyjustin
It’s not terrible we had it at expressjet. 4 hours of hot reserve with 4 hours of full pay. If you lived in base you were released after your 4 hours. Then to the bar!
Some company’s do like 8 hours of hot reserve 4 hour is of pay. That’s not ok
Some company’s do like 8 hours of hot reserve 4 hour is of pay. That’s not ok
03-05-2018, 02:33 PM
#1494
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: It has wings and I sit left.Sometimes.
Posts: 181
Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
Exactly. Anything can work if the contract language is strong and not full of loopholes.
03-05-2018, 02:34 PM
#1495
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: Professional Eugoogoolizer at the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good
Posts: 1,191
Originally Posted by Flyjustin
It’s not terrible we had it at expressjet. 4 hours of hot reserve with 4 hours of full pay. If you lived in base you were released after your 4 hours. Then to the bar!
Some company’s do like 8 hours of hot reserve 4 hour is of pay. That’s not ok
Some company’s do like 8 hours of hot reserve 4 hour is of pay. That’s not ok
03-05-2018, 04:31 PM
#1497
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
DO NOT GIVE THEM HOT RSV. MK AND SK will OWN YOU if you give them that. If you’ve never sat it you don’t know how terrible it is. It will also open the door to a million grievances. I’m serious, this will backfire on you. You will get to sit after a round trip, hrs before a report for a trip etc. do not do it.
03-05-2018, 04:54 PM
#1498
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: It has wings and I sit left.Sometimes.
Posts: 181
Originally Posted by rascal83
They already have hot reserve. It's called "Active Reserve" and has been there for years. 25.F.3.
03-05-2018, 05:39 PM
#1499
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
I'm very familiar with the PDT contract. Why don't you tell us all about active rsv and why and when it's used?
03-06-2018, 08:30 AM
#1500
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 252
Originally Posted by MKUltra
I only heard hot reserve being added.. shock i don't thing is the worst thing in the world.. I did not hear days arbitrarily traded... that's a no as far reserve just sucks.. I wouldn't want to see it suck more for the new guys coming in..
Originally Posted by evrbodysmugglin
How to sell something 101
1. Tell customer “look at this shiny item”
2. Of course you can have it customer (meeting 1)
3. Find a reason to take it away after interest is obtained. (Meeting 2) leaving customer more interested in item
4. Get something you want in exchange for original shiny item. (Enter PBS)
5. Profit
Did u think they would roll over and spit money at us? Trophies for everybody!
What I don’t understand is during negotiations how is it that all the open time is still getting sucked dry by captains. If you want fast negotiations you have to stop helping them. They want to take your days off your money your QOL? And you are helping them cover flights? You should be ashamed. How can we negotiate raises and more days off when people go down to 8-7-6 days off for a little cheddar?
Just say no. To preems for a month or two and we can get this done
1. Tell customer “look at this shiny item”
2. Of course you can have it customer (meeting 1)
3. Find a reason to take it away after interest is obtained. (Meeting 2) leaving customer more interested in item
4. Get something you want in exchange for original shiny item. (Enter PBS)
5. Profit
Did u think they would roll over and spit money at us? Trophies for everybody!
What I don’t understand is during negotiations how is it that all the open time is still getting sucked dry by captains. If you want fast negotiations you have to stop helping them. They want to take your days off your money your QOL? And you are helping them cover flights? You should be ashamed. How can we negotiate raises and more days off when people go down to 8-7-6 days off for a little cheddar?
Just say no. To preems for a month or two and we can get this done
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