Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
12-04-2019, 07:49 PM
#5031
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
Yes... a 3 year captain makes $80 per hour... we average 80 hours credit a months with 11 days off, $6400/mo. So 233 works day to make 76,800, assuming your vacation periods don't kill ya.
Some simple math, third year captain earns an average of $329.61 a work day. That's a 5 or six leg work your rear off work day. Or a thirty hour over night on day 2 at Erie and due to our modified min trip rig, almost all 4 day trips are worth only 16 hours.
Piedmont is the lowest paid regional airline.
Some simple math, third year captain earns an average of $329.61 a work day. That's a 5 or six leg work your rear off work day. Or a thirty hour over night on day 2 at Erie and due to our modified min trip rig, almost all 4 day trips are worth only 16 hours.
Piedmont is the lowest paid regional airline.
The hourly rate does not matter when you look at the big picture.
At other regionals, the hourly rate may be slightly lower than PDT, but you can credit more hours/month and work less (have more days off) / month. This translates to you making more money per year and you work less and have more days off.
Who gives a damn about the hourly rate if your yearly gross income is less than someone who can credit more at a lower rate and work less than you....think about it...
Let's make this simple, would you rather make $80,000 / year and have 150 days off a year or make $115,000 / year and have 200 days off a year? The numbers are arbitrary but that's a better example than say make $80/hour vs $65/ hour. The hourly rate is nil when you compare credit and trip rig.
PDT is behind the current times and it will come back and bite them if they don't start making positive changes.
12-05-2019, 09:01 AM
#5032
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 137
Originally Posted by CADR
^ This guy gets it.
The hourly rate does not matter when you look at the big picture.
At other regionals, the hourly rate may be slightly lower than PDT, but you can credit more hours/month and work less (have more days off) / month. This translates to you making more money per year and you work less and have more days off.
Who gives a damn about the hourly rate if your yearly gross income is less than someone who can credit more at a lower rate and work less than you....think about it...
Let's make this simple, would you rather make $80,000 / year and have 150 days off a year or make $115,000 / year and have 200 days off a year? The numbers are arbitrary but that's a better example than say make $80/hour vs $65/ hour. The hourly rate is nil when you compare credit and trip rig.
PDT is behind the current times and it will come back and bite them if they don't start making positive changes.
The hourly rate does not matter when you look at the big picture.
At other regionals, the hourly rate may be slightly lower than PDT, but you can credit more hours/month and work less (have more days off) / month. This translates to you making more money per year and you work less and have more days off.
Who gives a damn about the hourly rate if your yearly gross income is less than someone who can credit more at a lower rate and work less than you....think about it...
Let's make this simple, would you rather make $80,000 / year and have 150 days off a year or make $115,000 / year and have 200 days off a year? The numbers are arbitrary but that's a better example than say make $80/hour vs $65/ hour. The hourly rate is nil when you compare credit and trip rig.
PDT is behind the current times and it will come back and bite them if they don't start making positive changes.
12-07-2019, 05:49 AM
#5037
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Originally Posted by Garryowen1
Dec 16 and Jan 13 are the next two class dates. No idea how many are in each class.
Probably not enough so they’ll end up combining the two classes. I’m guessing we’ll fall below the 700 pilot mark before end of the year.
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12-08-2019, 08:21 AM
#5038
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Just to note...
Jan 19’, 772 pilots on the list. 100+ of them were in training. I mean guys were still in training in the high 500’s...
Dec 19’, 705 on the list, less than 30 in the schoolhouse.
Ya, we’ve got less folks on the sen list but more on the line. We’re better staffed than we were last year.
Jan 19’, 772 pilots on the list. 100+ of them were in training. I mean guys were still in training in the high 500’s...
Dec 19’, 705 on the list, less than 30 in the schoolhouse.
Ya, we’ve got less folks on the sen list but more on the line. We’re better staffed than we were last year.
12-08-2019, 08:56 AM
#5039
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Originally Posted by Lahey
Just to note...
Jan 19’, 772 pilots on the list. 100+ of them were in training. I mean guys were still in training in the high 500’s...
Dec 19’, 705 on the list, less than 30 in the schoolhouse.
Ya, we’ve got less folks on the sen list but more on the line. We’re better staffed than we were last year.
Jan 19’, 772 pilots on the list. 100+ of them were in training. I mean guys were still in training in the high 500’s...
Dec 19’, 705 on the list, less than 30 in the schoolhouse.
Ya, we’ve got less folks on the sen list but more on the line. We’re better staffed than we were last year.
Just a fun math fact,
772 minus 100 is 672
and 705 minus 30 is 675
Staffing is pretty much the same - which is that PDT is grossly understaffed given the type of operation that PDT runs and the lack of intelligence behind their scheduling decisions.
12-08-2019, 06:45 PM
#5040
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Yes, let me clarify, 100 pilots who were listed as “in training” solid in Jan 19’. It’s about 50/50 in training to on the line to the high 500s. Without counting, I’d say 150-175 pilots in training at this time last year. We’re better staffed now than we were last year. Reserves December of last year - single digits. This year? Double digits.
No doubt this place runs like crap, but this is the best staffing I’ve seen since I’ve gotten here. Double edit - schedules still suck with good staffing.
No doubt this place runs like crap, but this is the best staffing I’ve seen since I’ve gotten here. Double edit - schedules still suck with good staffing.
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