Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
08-28-2020, 08:12 PM
#5641
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Originally Posted by Freighthotdog
The same ones prior to COVID who wouldn’t shut up about how bad Piedmont was/is. When Piedmont is short staffed again and guys like me on the bottom of the NEW seniority list are being junior manned and extended, they will continue their non stop ******** about how bad this company is!
The bottom 120 should take this opportunity to improve their position. Add some skill or experience to your resume (this won't be the last industry downturn), continue networking, and aggressively pursue better flying jobs. Take whatever incentives you got from Piedmont, and run. Having furlough recall rights gives you a solid backup plan. Take the chance to pursue other things, knowing that if it doesn't work out you still have a 121 job lined up. For the ones that are hard-workers, that freedom is an opportunity, a blessing in disguise.
If you stay on property, you're going to gross $45k/yr. Or, with a guaranteed airline job in your back pocket, you go out and enjoy what could be the last break the airline industry ever gives you.
I'm on CA pay and I'm still considering voluntary furlough myself. Unfortunately, they only give us 5 days to decide. I've got something pending, if it comes through in time I'm out of here. With any luck, for good. The flow is practically useless at this point. No point sticking around for the Piedmont pay and quality of life.
08-29-2020, 12:01 AM
#5642
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 203
Originally Posted by CADR
Here's the problem, the people at the top of the seniority list and unaffected from the furloughs/downgrades will never go for it. They are all for no concessions and although they will never say it, they honestly would rather have the people at the bottom be furloughed/downgraded than to see a drop in their pay.
I don't want to see a single one of our pilots furloughed, no one does. And if there is anything we can do to prevent it, we should. But concessions aren't it. No changes to pay, no changes to min guarantee. Full pay to the last day.
Last edited by flybywp; 08-29-2020 at 12:20 AM.
08-29-2020, 12:09 AM
#5643
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Posts: 203
Originally Posted by CADR
I'm not in favor of concessions, but let's be clear that you are comparing apples and oranges. PSA did that to get new airplanes. We are currently in a completely incomprehensible situation that came from a global pandemic that shut down all airlines and travel demand. The two things are completely different. A temporary "concession" or drop in min guarantee to preserve all the pilot jobs at the company would be vastly different from negotiating to get new airplanes. Once again, I'm not saying that is on the table nor am I for it, but it is very different from what has come before.
08-29-2020, 05:27 AM
#5644
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 564
Originally Posted by PeteyT
In case you've forgotten, PDT pilots have been mistreated by the company for decades. Bottom of the industry pay, bottom of the industry schedule, and (besides the flow) bottom of the industry contract. So I've got no problem if the guys at the top don't want to go backwards after the meager gains made over the years. We're dramatically overstaffed, and we still are getting lines with fewer days off than other regional pilots had when business was at it's all-time peak.
The bottom 120 should take this opportunity to improve their position. Add some skill or experience to your resume (this won't be the last industry downturn), continue networking, and aggressively pursue better flying jobs. Take whatever incentives you got from Piedmont, and run. Having furlough recall rights gives you a solid backup plan. Take the chance to pursue other things, knowing that if it doesn't work out you still have a 121 job lined up. For the ones that are hard-workers, that freedom is an opportunity, a blessing in disguise.
If you stay on property, you're going to gross $45k/yr. Or, with a guaranteed airline job in your back pocket, you go out and enjoy what could be the last break the airline industry ever gives you.
I'm on CA pay and I'm still considering voluntary furlough myself. Unfortunately, they only give us 5 days to decide. I've got something pending, if it comes through in time I'm out of here. With any luck, for good. The flow is practically useless at this point. No point sticking around for the Piedmont pay and quality of life.
The bottom 120 should take this opportunity to improve their position. Add some skill or experience to your resume (this won't be the last industry downturn), continue networking, and aggressively pursue better flying jobs. Take whatever incentives you got from Piedmont, and run. Having furlough recall rights gives you a solid backup plan. Take the chance to pursue other things, knowing that if it doesn't work out you still have a 121 job lined up. For the ones that are hard-workers, that freedom is an opportunity, a blessing in disguise.
If you stay on property, you're going to gross $45k/yr. Or, with a guaranteed airline job in your back pocket, you go out and enjoy what could be the last break the airline industry ever gives you.
I'm on CA pay and I'm still considering voluntary furlough myself. Unfortunately, they only give us 5 days to decide. I've got something pending, if it comes through in time I'm out of here. With any luck, for good. The flow is practically useless at this point. No point sticking around for the Piedmont pay and quality of life.
08-29-2020, 06:03 AM
#5645
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 774
Originally Posted by CADR
Here's the problem, the people at the top of the seniority list and unaffected from the furloughs/downgrades will never go for it. They are all for no concessions and although they will never say it, they honestly would rather have the people at the bottom be furloughed/downgraded than to see a drop in their pay.
"no open time pickups while guys are furloughed"
with
"reduce guarantee to save jobs"
One of those is honorable, and one is stupid.
08-29-2020, 08:08 AM
#5646
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Protect the contract, furloughs will be back. If your contract has nothing but concessions, why bother come back. All you will do is have to fight to get back what you gave up later. 8 years stagnated contract for what the flow. Wait and see what dougie does to aa, the butcher is sharpening the knives as we speak.
08-29-2020, 03:37 PM
#5647
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Posts: 1,729
Originally Posted by buddies8
Protect the contract, furloughs will be back. If your contract has nothing but concessions, why bother come back. All you will do is have to fight to get back what you gave up later. 8 years stagnated contract for what the flow. Wait and see what dougie does to aa, the butcher is sharpening the knives as we speak.
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