New TA is out.
07-28-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
What do you guys and girls think of it?
07-28-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Disappointed it even got sent out to the pilot group for a vote and the union is going to spend time and money on roadshows for it.
07-28-2018, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TravoltaPants
But if they didn’t send it ya’ll would have complained you wanted to see it anyway...lol
07-28-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
They could have sent out the list of requests what they went into negotiations with, and the list of stuff where the mandate/expectations were not met to explain their no vote.
07-28-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TravoltaPants
But ya’ll STILL would have complained you had no say... so damned if they do damned if they don’t. Silly pilots... always tripping over the dollars to pick up the pennies
Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.
07-28-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
It would be good to see the value of the cost per pilot increase of the TA before a vote... pennies may be all there is with the concessions in extension language, displacement and trip swap denial language, line holders being put on reserve during carry over (with lodging at their expense) hotel cost reimbursement caps etc. in return for the ~2% pay increase for captains.
Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.
Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.
07-28-2018, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
It would be good to see the value of the cost per pilot increase of the TA before a vote... pennies may be all there is with the concessions in extension language, displacement and trip swap denial language, line holders being put on reserve during carry over (with lodging at their expense) hotel cost reimbursement caps etc. in return for the ~2% pay increase for captains.
Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.
Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.
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