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PDTFlyer 07-28-2018 01:57 PM

New TA is out.
 
What do you guys and girls think of it?

MantisToboggan 07-28-2018 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2644278)
What do you guys and girls think of it?

This girl says NO

Otterbox 07-28-2018 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2644278)
What do you guys and girls think of it?

Disappointed it even got sent out to the pilot group for a vote and the union is going to spend time and money on roadshows for it.

TravoltaPants 07-28-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2644301)
Disappointed it even got sent out to the pilot group for a vote and the union is going to spend time and money on roadshows for it.

But if they didn’t send it ya’ll would have complained you wanted to see it anyway...lol

Otterbox 07-28-2018 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by TravoltaPants (Post 2644320)
But if they didn’t send it ya’ll would have complained you wanted to see it anyway...lol

They could have sent out the list of requests what they went into negotiations with, and the list of stuff where the mandate/expectations were not met to explain their no vote.

TravoltaPants 07-28-2018 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2644323)
They could have sent out the list of requests what they went into negotiations with, and the list of stuff where the mandate/expectations were not met to explain their no vote.

But ya’ll STILL would have complained you had no say... so damned if they do damned if they don’t. Silly pilots... always tripping over the dollars to pick up the pennies

Otterbox 07-28-2018 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by TravoltaPants (Post 2644329)
But ya’ll STILL would have complained you had no say... so damned if they do damned if they don’t. Silly pilots... always tripping over the dollars to pick up the pennies

It would be good to see the value of the cost per pilot increase of the TA before a vote... pennies may be all there is with the concessions in extension language, displacement and trip swap denial language, line holders being put on reserve during carry over (with lodging at their expense) hotel cost reimbursement caps etc. in return for the ~2% pay increase for captains.

Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.

TravoltaPants 07-28-2018 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2644339)
It would be good to see the value of the cost per pilot increase of the TA before a vote... pennies may be all there is with the concessions in extension language, displacement and trip swap denial language, line holders being put on reserve during carry over (with lodging at their expense) hotel cost reimbursement caps etc. in return for the ~2% pay increase for captains.

Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.

I asked one of the guys and they’re going to roadshow it next month.

Theaveragejoker 07-28-2018 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2644339)
It would be good to see the value of the cost per pilot increase of the TA before a vote... pennies may be all there is with the concessions in extension language, displacement and trip swap denial language, line holders being put on reserve during carry over (with lodging at their expense) hotel cost reimbursement caps etc. in return for the ~2% pay increase for captains.

Folks are willing to keep an open mind... Written statements by every negotiating committee member outlining why they viewed it as a good deal, as well statements from all of the reps who voted to send it to TA along with the cost per pilot analysis for the unions initial asks at the start of negotiations with a side by side comparison of the cost value per pilot of the gains and the cost value per pilot of all the concessions should be a good starting point.

Agreed.

Filler

Heavy Hive 07-28-2018 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by TravoltaPants (Post 2644320)
But if they didn’t send it ya’ll would have complained you wanted to see it anyway...lol

Travolta Pants is probably the SBY Airport Manager.


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