Pilots that go to American Airlines
01-28-2020, 03:08 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by BRubble
Still pretty amazing to go from zero 121 time to American Airlines in 4+ years. How old is the youngest person? To flow, I mean.
01-31-2020, 05:36 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
Out of curiosity, what does everyone think will happen to the flow program if an AA airplane ever crashes and it turns out the pilot flying it had a criminal history, a few checkride failures and only a high school education?
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
01-31-2020, 06:02 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 564
Originally Posted by DontLookDown
Out of curiosity, what does everyone think will happen to the flow program if an AA airplane ever crashes and it turns out the pilot flying it had a criminal history, a few checkride failures and only a high school education?
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
There are plenty of bad apples that get hired at United or Delta just like any other company.
The hiring crunch is in full gear, hold on.
01-31-2020, 06:28 AM
#36
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 92
Originally Posted by DontLookDown
Out of curiosity, what does everyone think will happen to the flow program if an AA airplane ever crashes and it turns out the pilot flying it had a criminal history, a few checkride failures and only a high school education?
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
01-31-2020, 06:37 AM
#37
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Posts: 286
Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
The flow program is five years old - it's pretty well established.
01-31-2020, 09:11 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by DontLookDown
Out of curiosity, what does everyone think will happen to the flow program if an AA airplane ever crashes and it turns out the pilot flying it had a criminal history, a few checkride failures and only a high school education?
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
Then the media goes on to explain how that pilot wouldn’t have been hired at Delta or United, but AA has a “flow” program set up that allows pilots with those kinds of backgrounds to still get hired.
That could be a PR nightmare. I think AA is counting on the fact that once the flow program gets established it will take a pilot 8-10 years to flow.
Being able to explain that a pilot has to prove themselves by maintaining a clean record for 10 years would restore everyone’s faith in the AA hiring practices should the worst ever happen. I think that AA will always try to balance making the flow process as long as possible, while keeping it just quick enough to still be an effective recruitment tool
Last edited by HW1018; 01-31-2020 at 09:21 AM.
01-31-2020, 12:06 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 177
The way I built my hours is better than the way anyone else has ever done it. Military is better than regional. CFI better than banner tower. Corporate better than CFI. Off the street better than flow.
Most importantly, get off my lawn you kids!
Most importantly, get off my lawn you kids!
01-31-2020, 01:06 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 206
Pilots that go to American Airlines
Originally Posted by HW1018
I would venture to say, that pilots WITHOUT a criminal record and WITHOUT check ride failures have crashed airplanes too...just study the accidents involving major airlines over the last 50 years, I am almost certain a majority of those pilots did not have a criminal back ground, check ride failures, and had 4 years degrees...but they still crashed an aircraft too. Just because someone has had set backs in their careers, doesn't mean they will crash an airplane or be any less compentent.
But having so many flow pilots on property, it would look bad if AA threw them under the bus, so I kind of doubt they would.
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