Public perception is what I was thinking you were getting at. Thanks for the reply!

 

April 2020 Piedmont pilot flows to American:

EO -date of hire at Piedmont July 2015
DR -date of hire at Piedmont July 2015
BS -date of hire at Piedmont July 2015
JA -date of hire at Piedmont July 2015
WA -date of hire at Piedmont August 2015
MV -date of hire at Piedmont August 2015


APC post from July 2015: daOldMan:
It is possible in the future to flow to a major in 5 years, but there is absolutely no way that any airline that is growing can have a flow such as this.

APC post from October 2014 chrisreedrules
Most new hires coming on property in 2015 will never see the flow. Let's take a look at the numbers: 400ish pilot group by early 2015. 30ish flowing yearly and probably losing another 20 to 30 to attrition. So for ease of math's sake we'll say losing 50 p/year. That's still 6 to 8 years before the prospect of a flow would affect a new hire. Who knows what the heck will be happening with PDT that far out.

What's happening "that far out" is a 4 year, 8 month flow, exactly as American predicted. (P.S. - if chrisreedrules worked for Piedmont in 2014, he'd be at AA by now...)

 

Keep in mind, for a long time, the marketed flow time wasn't five years, but "three to five years". A flow time that is hovering right at their advertised worst case scenario isn't something to brag out.

But enjoy your opportunity to post about sub-5 year flows while you have it. Your time is limited. I have a feeling we're going to hear a lot less from you about a five year flow when we start flowing the '17 hires.

 

Hired in 2015, flow to American in 4.8 years is “worst case scenario”??

Really happy for you guys, congratulations. Sorry to see MV go.

 

AA said 3-5 year....so their “worst case scenario” was the best case scenario, and that only lasts 6 months. After that, it goes up quite a bit.
But the company referral email is still trying to push a 4y7m flow if hired now....at a shrinking airline mind you. That’s faster than those at a (formerly) growing airline.

 

Are you aware how many pilots were on the seniority list when these guys were hired? How many pilots we were flowing when these guys were hired? What our bases and equipment were like? What we thought about our fleet projections or what might come of Piedmont? Was there anything coming behind these clapped out old Dashes?

The guys flowing in August 2015 had been there many many years. That was the case until not very long ago at all. You can drudge up old posts by guys who were speculating back then, but the fact of the matter is that even the guys who struck gold and are flowing now in under five years were speculating. It could have gone much differently. I was one of those guys but didn't stick around for the flow. Would have worked out great even if I did. We looked at the situation and made an educated guess. It was a gamble and we took it based off our own opinions and calculations.

What's happening here is you are swallowing it all, hook line and sinker. You aren't thinking for yourself and coming up with your best educated guess and making decisions, you're looking at an ad for the Brooklyn Bridge and writing a check. And publicly exclaiming the brilliancy of your purchase. I for one am entertained

 

American - 1
Skeptical pilots - 0

 

Did you decide on a regional yet?

 

Not Trans States
PSA flow is way too long
Republic doesn’t have a flow, but running a good operation. Probably won’t do enough flying there.
Prefer to be on the East Coast, so no Sky West
Worried about the stability of CommutAir

 

Good luck at Cape Air!