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04-17-2013 | 08:17 PM
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Where is this section? The only similar statement I can find is where they define someone as "hired" which is when the pilot begins training. However, hired isn't what they are committed to. They are committed to making offers.
I think this section pretty clearly defines US Airways' offer commitment:
4.
e. The following conditions apply to US Airways’ Offer Commitment in any given year:
i. The Offer Commitment will be fulfilled based on offers made to Piedmont pilots for New
Pilot Positions, regardless of whether the offer(s) is/are accepted, or whether the
Piedmont pilot fails to appear or delays appearance as scheduled for an assigned new
class hire date, or fails training. For example, if US Airways has an Offer Commitment for
27 Piedmont pilots, and US Airways makes offers to 27 Piedmont pilots, but only 15 of
those Piedmont pilots accept the offer, and three of those fail training, US Airways will
have fulfilled its Offer Commitment for that calendar year.
I think this section pretty clearly defines US Airways' offer commitment:
4.
e. The following conditions apply to US Airways’ Offer Commitment in any given year:
i. The Offer Commitment will be fulfilled based on offers made to Piedmont pilots for New
Pilot Positions, regardless of whether the offer(s) is/are accepted, or whether the
Piedmont pilot fails to appear or delays appearance as scheduled for an assigned new
class hire date, or fails training. For example, if US Airways has an Offer Commitment for
27 Piedmont pilots, and US Airways makes offers to 27 Piedmont pilots, but only 15 of
those Piedmont pilots accept the offer, and three of those fail training, US Airways will
have fulfilled its Offer Commitment for that calendar year.
04-19-2013 | 06:17 AM
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There still seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about this hiring agreement.
US Airways must offer jobs to the lesser of: 25% of total new hire positions during a calendar year, or 3 of our pilots for each month they hire. i.e, if they hire 60 in one month, and 0 in all other months for the calendar year, they only have to offer 3 positions to our pilots, not 15.
Also, the amount drops to the lesser of 25% or 2 pilots per month US Airways hires in 2016 and 2017. After that, our contract is amendable, and the agreement is over until it is re-negotiated.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all I can go off of is the wording in the new contract. The only wording I am aware of is US Airways must OFFER said number of positions. I would take this to mean if they offer Pilot Joe a new hire position, and he decides to ditch class for United, US Airways may use that offer towards meeting their commitment. This only makes sense, as I don't see why they should have to go out of their way to accommodate our guys not taking what is offered to them.
If US Airways hires more than 144 pilots spread out over 12 calendar months continuously for the entire duration of this agreement, realistically, I see 36 of our guys getting offers for 2013-2015. Then, in 2016-2017, 24 of our guys per year getting offers. I wouldn't expect to see more than 156 of our guys total getting offers if Piedmont is still around through 2017. That is still a decent amount of pilots, but much different than saying a straight 25%. That number would be much higher, and inaccurate.
US Airways must offer jobs to the lesser of: 25% of total new hire positions during a calendar year, or 3 of our pilots for each month they hire. i.e, if they hire 60 in one month, and 0 in all other months for the calendar year, they only have to offer 3 positions to our pilots, not 15.
Also, the amount drops to the lesser of 25% or 2 pilots per month US Airways hires in 2016 and 2017. After that, our contract is amendable, and the agreement is over until it is re-negotiated.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all I can go off of is the wording in the new contract. The only wording I am aware of is US Airways must OFFER said number of positions. I would take this to mean if they offer Pilot Joe a new hire position, and he decides to ditch class for United, US Airways may use that offer towards meeting their commitment. This only makes sense, as I don't see why they should have to go out of their way to accommodate our guys not taking what is offered to them.
If US Airways hires more than 144 pilots spread out over 12 calendar months continuously for the entire duration of this agreement, realistically, I see 36 of our guys getting offers for 2013-2015. Then, in 2016-2017, 24 of our guys per year getting offers. I wouldn't expect to see more than 156 of our guys total getting offers if Piedmont is still around through 2017. That is still a decent amount of pilots, but much different than saying a straight 25%. That number would be much higher, and inaccurate.
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