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DoNoHarm 01-31-2018 10:05 AM

Look at a map of Norfolk and draw a 50 mile and 100 mile ring around it. There are some great places to live and drive to ORF. Virginia Beach, Newport News, Outer Banks of NC, Elizabeth City, Richmond, Edenton/Morehead...

It won't be great for commuters, but if you are interested in living on the coast, there are some great options. If I was 20 and single again, Virginia Beach area would be very attractive.

I hate desks 01-31-2018 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by DoNoHarm (Post 2516380)
Look at a map of Norfolk and draw a 50 mile and 100 mile ring around it. There are some great places to live and drive to ORF. Virginia Beach, Newport News, Outer Banks of NC, Elizabeth City, Richmond, Edenton/Morehead...

It won't be great for commuters, but if you are interested in living on the coast, there are some great options. If I was 20 and single again, Virginia Beach area would be very attractive.

That's actually the reason I wouldn't mind it. Currently I am planning on being based at DCA, a 2 hour drive from my house. DCA is stupid expensive to live near. Norfolk is less expensive, and no NoVA traffic to deal with, so I'd be willing to relocate closer to ORF. But I know I am in the small minority, and am not counting my chickens yet.

jetlag q 02-01-2018 07:49 PM

I hope orf will be a pilot domicile . I live in the Richmond area and would love the 1.5 hour drive and could sleep in my bed most nights.

new guy 02-02-2018 07:11 PM

Man, maybe I haven't been paying attention but those r1 times have jumped up like what, 3-4 months for FO?

Is that due to the influx of new hires?

MaCrOs 02-03-2018 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by new guy (Post 2518438)
Man, maybe I haven't been paying attention but those r1 times have jumped up like what, 3-4 months for FO?

Is that due to the influx of new hires?

1/3 of the entire seniority list was hired in 2017...

Greybush 02-03-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by new guy (Post 2518438)
Man, maybe I haven't been paying attention but those r1 times have jumped up like what, 3-4 months for FO?

Is that due to the influx of new hires?

Also, someone mentioned those months include sims/ground school, so a 9 month wait time is really only like 6 months.

blackhawk88 02-03-2018 08:03 PM

If I have to guess, a lot of stagnation has been due to smaller upgrade classes before the union and the company reached an agreement for forced upgrades. Not that I agree with the LOA, but to answer your question, it should help with FO reserve times.

However, a lot of junior CAs who voluntarily upgraded are now facing extended reserve time because those who are senior to them are upgrading.

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new guy 02-03-2018 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2519056)
1/3 of the entire seniority list was hired in 2017...


Originally Posted by Greybush (Post 2519357)
Also, someone mentioned those months include sims/ground school, so a 9 month wait time is really only like 6 months.

I get that, but looking back to the summer, those same positions and times were a minimum of 2 months shorter. Regardless of anything else, the times have increased to hold r1. Is that not correct?

texinc 02-03-2018 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by new guy (Post 2519388)
I get that, but looking back to the summer, those same positions and times were a minimum of 2 months shorter. Regardless of anything else, the times have increased to hold r1. Is that not correct?

DCA was shortest to hold Round one for FO when it first opened as a crew base last year. But now it appears they have more pilots and the time to hold R1 is taking longer. I would say Charlotte is about 1 month longer than it was.

BizJet 02-03-2018 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by new guy (Post 2519388)
I get that, but looking back to the summer, those same positions and times were a minimum of 2 months shorter. Regardless of anything else, the times have increased to hold r1. Is that not correct?

DAY has only increased about 2.5 months since this summer and is still the most junior. This is most due to the huge number of 2017 hires and the slow fall upgrade classes.


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