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Swakid8 11-01-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by tlamjaj (Post 2700453)
My last trip had a 2 number but was solely 700s :confused:



If you are on reserve, it doesn’t matter it seems. They will code the pairings as they see fit. I am sure I’ve seen all three during a reserve pairing.


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Jecain7 11-01-2018 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2701182)
If you are on reserve, it doesn’t matter it seems. They will code the pairings as they see fit. I am sure I’ve seen all three during a reserve pairing.


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Yea while on reserve i'd be excited to see a 700 trip on my schedule only to have a deuce roll up with no APU. Holding a line i've never seen this.

Swakid8 11-01-2018 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Jecain7 (Post 2701208)
Yea while on reserve i'd be excited to see a 700 trip on my schedule only to have a deuce roll up with no APU. Holding a line i've never seen this.


I agree if you are a line holder the pairing codings are the key.


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LineUp 11-23-2018 07:31 AM

Not sure the best place to post this, couldn’t find anything recent thru search functions... Can anyone speak to the PSA PHL base? How senior is it? How is the QOL? Thanks.

Irishblackbird 11-23-2018 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by LineUp (Post 2712859)
Not sure the best place to post this, couldn’t find anything recent thru search functions... Can anyone speak to the PSA PHL base? How senior is it? How is the QOL? Thanks.

Go back to about page 47-48 on this thread and there is a spread sheet posted. PHL looks like around 10 months to hold a line as an FO, and 3 and a half years to hold a line as a CA. PHL is a relatively new and small base for PSA. Not sure if your looking for CA or FO. All bases with the exception of ORF on the CA side are north of 3.5 years to hold a line. FO's are approaching a year now with the exception of DAY. Unless we get more planes or attrition picks up, we are getting fat on pilots. I have heard of guys going 2 months or more without flying, on both sides of the cockpit.

chrisreedrules 11-23-2018 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2712922)
Go back to about page 47-48 on this thread and there is a spread sheet posted. PHL looks like around 10 months to hold a line as an FO, and 3 and a half years to hold a line as a CA. PHL is a relatively new and small base for PSA. Not sure if your looking for CA or FO. All bases with the exception of ORF on the CA side are north of 3.5 years to hold a line. FO's are approaching a year now with the exception of DAY. Unless we get more planes or attrition picks up, we are getting fat on pilots. I have heard of guys going 2 months or more without flying, on both sides of the cockpit.

If you think we’re fat on pilots now just wait for PBS. 1900-2000 pilots and 140-150 airplanes with PBS is insane. There will be less need for the crazy number of reserves we currently have, but at the same time the lines will be able to be made more efficient (in theory). So we’ll see what happens.

There are some who seem to think that AAG will announce further growth beyond the 150 airframes. Or else why would they keep us so fat on pilots?

Malcolm Tent 11-23-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2712935)
Or else why would they keep us so fat on pilots?

Maybe AAG Expects increasing attrition as the retirement wave hits. If this were the case you might expect to see all WO’s fat with FOs.

Irishblackbird 11-23-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Malcolm Tent (Post 2712966)
Maybe AAG Expects increasing attrition as the retirement wave hits. If this were the case you might expect to see all WO’s fat with FOs.

Ditto, I think the regionals that can stock up on pilots will do so, and will bear the short term cost of inefficient utilization of being fat. There will be a day of reckoning when the big boy's start full swing retirement's and hiring for that attrition/possible growth. Like Endeavor, they will come up with strategies to correct for the overfilled coffers. Or pilots will seek other opportunities if they are unable fly, make money, or gain experience. The problem will then self correct.

At Piedmont, the opposite seems to be the case. They don't have enough CA's, and they have a bottleneck with training, and guys are leaving that are waiting in the que. In terms of growth at PSA, I don't see this happening beyond the 150 airframes, I think most regional's will actually contract if there is pressure on the pilot supply.

No evidence to support my theory, just a hunch.

foumanchu 11-23-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2712922)
Go back to about page 47-48 on this thread and there is a spread sheet posted. PHL looks like around 10 months to hold a line as an FO, and 3 and a half years to hold a line as a CA. PHL is a relatively new and small base for PSA. Not sure if your looking for CA or FO. All bases with the exception of ORF on the CA side are north of 3.5 years to hold a line. FO's are approaching a year now with the exception of DAY. Unless we get more planes or attrition picks up, we are getting fat on pilots. I have heard of guys going 2 months or more without flying, on both sides of the cockpit.

Yet, mysteriously, the CA side of things always shows right at reserve minimums to where you can't trade/swap trips. Weird...

FlyingSlowly 11-29-2018 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by 272922 (Post 2697464)
Rumor has it that MaCrOs doesn't work here anymore, so The Tall One posted something on the now official ALPA forum. I guess ALPA peeps can't post here any more though.

Any one care to (re)post the December award chart from BSL?

I'm not on there presently. Probably missing out on TONS of new gossip and rumors that will never materialize...


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