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Thedude86 12-31-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2734092)
Now THERE is someone struggling to find a silver lining in a cloud

Another silver lining is that when the tier system gets implemented in April I won’t be incentivized to pick up extra flying anymore so I’ll enjoy more days home.

jetlag q 12-31-2018 08:49 PM

No regional comes close to endeavor after the second year. The second year 9e 401k match at 12% ends the comparison.

DarkSideMoon 12-31-2018 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 2734182)
If you want to see something really fun check out the open time at places like Skywest, Air Whiskey, or Republic. Over there a 20 hour four day is a crap trip, and 24-25 hour four days are a dime a dozen.

It's no wonder my friend who is a bypassing First Officer (because they don't need to force upgrades) at Skywest is making easily more than me as a reserve Captain at PSA.

Not to stir the pot at all but between new hire bonuses and premium pay I hit 90,000+ this year at ZW as an FO. 100,000+ if you include per diem. Granted, I was averaging 7 days off a month and 125 hours of credit so QOL was non existent, but the money is there if that’s what you’re after.

PleaseComplete 01-01-2019 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734203)
I guess you are missing my point, if you are posting this to encourage folks to consider Endeavor

Negative Ghostrider, you have missed the point. The point is to know what you actually get here at PSA vs our competitors.


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734203)
-They aren’t hiring at the moment

Have you looked at the retirement numbers lately...


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734203)
-You get in now, it will be awhile before you see better schedules since most of that will be Reserve in NYC.

Minus NYC that's true pretty much anywhere and for various reasons for some people NYC might be a better option than a podunk outstation with a line or reserve that starts at 0430.

Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734203)
-Ther co-domincile in New York has decreased their QOL. Especially on reserve...Folks are over there *****ing....

Give someone a gold brick they'll ***** about how heavy it is...

Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734203)
Again, the grass isn’t always greener...

No, but the money is. I come to work to make money. Liking my job is just a side benefit. A benefit that Management has manipulated in their favor for far too long. If people would put their desire to be properly compensated above their desire "to fly" it would be a totally different landscape out there. Wish in one hand, **** in the other I reckon... Happy New Year.

Swakid8 01-01-2019 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 2734711)
Negative Ghostrider, you have missed the point. The point is to know what you actually get here at PSA vs our competitors.





Have you looked at the retirement numbers lately...





Minus NYC that's true pretty much anywhere and for various reasons for some people NYC might be a better option than a podunk outstation with a line or reserve that starts at 0430.



Give someone a gold brick they'll ***** about how heavy it is...



No, but the money is. I come to work to make money. Liking my job is just a side benefit. A benefit that Management has manipulated in their favor for far too long. If people would put their desire to be properly compensated above their desire "to fly" it would be a totally different landscape out there. Wish in one hand, **** in the other I reckon... Happy New Year.



Just saying, there’s the door man.....


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Irishblackbird 01-01-2019 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2734606)
Not to stir the pot at all but between new hire bonuses and premium pay I hit 90,000+ this year at ZW as an FO. 100,000+ if you include per diem. Granted, I was averaging 7 days off a month and 125 hours of credit so QOL was non existent, but the money is there if that’s what you’re after.

Who is ZW?

Swakid8 01-01-2019 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2734763)
Who is ZW?



Air Wisconsin


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PleaseComplete 01-01-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2734732)
Just saying, there’s the door man.....


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Right back at ya there ma'am.

Gone Flying 01-03-2019 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by jetlag q (Post 2734602)
No regional comes close to endeavor after the second year. The second year 9e 401k match at 12% ends the comparison.

unless my info is bad (its a strong possibility) 9E year 2 match is 3%. it takes 20 years to get to 12.5% (8% year 11-19)

jetlag q 01-03-2019 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 2735996)
unless my info is bad (its a strong possibility) 9E year 2 match is 3%. it takes 20 years to get to 12.5% (8% year 11-19)

If true ,Thanks for the correction.


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