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Urban achiever 03-13-2021 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 3205581)
get where you’re coming from and I agree. Trust has been broken, and they shouldn’t be trusted.


fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... well you ain’t go’n fool me again...

CRJ9 03-15-2021 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 3205581)
edit: I get where you’re coming from and I agree. Trust has been broken, and they shouldn’t be trusted.

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trvsmrtn 03-15-2021 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by CRJ9 (Post 3207382)

****ed off email to the MEC has been sent.

BurnerAccount69 03-15-2021 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3207453)
****ed off email to the MEC has been sent.

you didn't know about this?

trvsmrtn 03-15-2021 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3207488)
you didn't know about this?

I knew that he was being allowed to continue in the role, but I wasn’t aware that it was a decision made by the MEC. I assumed it was some BS nuance in ALPA bylaws that allowed him to remain in the role for the remainder of his time.

The part that I am ****ed of about the most is the sentence that says he spends the equivalent of his flight time duties performing as the MEC chair. He hasn’t had a medical in over a year, he is literally being paid by the pilot group, and yet we have had only one all pilot call in that time, and I can count on both hands the number of emails he has sent to the pilots in the past year (with 3 of those coming in one day to ***** about voluntary furloughs).

BurnerAccount69 03-15-2021 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3207492)
I knew that he was being allowed to continue in the role, but I wasn’t aware that it was a decision made by the MEC. I assumed it was some BS nuance in ALPA bylaws that allowed him to remain in the role for the remainder of his time.

The part that I am ****ed of about the most is the sentence that says he spends the equivalent of his flight time duties performing as the MEC chair. He hasn’t had a medical in over a year, he is literally being paid by the pilot group, and yet we have had only one all pilot call in that time, and I can count on both hands the number of emails he has sent to the pilots in the past year (with 3 of those coming in one day to ***** about voluntary furloughs).

I don't think ALPA is paying him. I think PSA is paying him. I'm sure someone else can verify all of this.

dera 03-15-2021 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3207596)
I don't think ALPA is paying him. I think PSA is paying him. I'm sure someone else can verify all of this.

Im not PSA but I know how ALPA works.

Officers are on a full time union leave from the company. ALPA (well, your MEC) pays PSA his flight pay loss. It usually includes a premium too for benefits, 20% or so. So yes, ALPA is paying him although indirectly.

His paycheck comes from PSA, but ALPA pays PSA back.

snuffleupagus69 03-15-2021 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3207613)
Im not PSA but I know how ALPA works.

Officers are on a full time union leave from the company. ALPA (well, your MEC) pays PSA his flight pay loss. It usually includes a premium too for benefits, 20% or so. So yes, ALPA is paying him although indirectly.

His paycheck comes from PSA, but ALPA pays PSA back.

You're absolutely right that is how it is SUPPOSED to work. ALPA has a strong set of policies in place to handle this type of thing. However sadly in this case being mentioned that is NOT what is happening and is NOT being followed. All the reps are now aware and I personally am watching to see if they can finally be honest about this to us all and support the pilots OR their own personal elected positions.

dera 03-15-2021 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by snuffleupagus69 (Post 3207616)
You're absolutely right that is how it is SUPPOSED to work. ALPA has a strong set of policies in place to handle this type of thing. However sadly in this case being mentioned that is NOT what is happening and is NOT being followed. All the reps are now aware and I personally am watching to see if they can finally be honest about this to us all and support the pilots OR their own personal elected positions.

No comment on that.
At my shop, we just increased the required flyback for officers to minimize the officers cost to our pilots.


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