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Old 11-05-2021, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 View Post
Other than a seniority number at a legacy carrier, what else could possibly keep you at PSA?

Make sure your apps are out now and updated. Upgrade as quickly as you can, update your applications weekly with PIC time, and get out as soon as you can! Start building seniority somewhere before you have hundreds or thousands more pilots in front of you.
Yep. Literally no reason to stay when you can get out. If/When the regional folds you are going to have to start over again anyway, and I suspect a year or two at an LCC flying 200 pax SIC will be just as valuable as a couple years as a street captain on perennial reserve flying 50-76 pax.

It’s a case of ‘the Devil take the hindmost’ as the regional collapses.
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:35 AM
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DF is apparently having a town hall next week. I hope he is able to say something of substance to us because no one is sticking around to turn the lights out if this keeps going. At least sweeten the deal of being here enough that I have to *think* about accepting a CJO to anywhere else?
Every pilot on property needs to be flooding that Town Hall with attrition, retention, and hiring related questions. It’s too bad that they’re not doing in person events anymore, but I suspect that the HR types have figured out that the virtual format allows the to appeal to political priorities that only three people listening may actually care about rather than actually being confronted with hard questions.
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:55 AM
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The end of PSA 2.0 is a foregone conclusion. The only issue is how and if PSA 3.0 will rise from the ashes

Does AA just give up and give the planes to skywest? Do they somehow take the WO’s to mainline piecemeal? Do they somehow take them in all at once?
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:57 AM
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Maybe it’s time to just bring the regional flying in house.
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Old 11-05-2021, 12:01 PM
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I have it on good authority that there are multiple pilots who originally accepted the Flow Bonus now trying to back out as other Legacy Airlines have called them for interviews that would be only a few months before their projected class dates.

Meanwhile, my last day of reserve availability and they put me on hot. Oh well. 5PM is in an hour….


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Old 11-05-2021, 12:17 PM
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I have it on good authority that there are multiple pilots who originally accepted the Flow Bonus now trying to back out as other Legacy Airlines have called them for interviews that would be only a few months before their projected class dates.

Meanwhile, my last day of reserve availability and they put me on hot. Oh well. 5PM is in an hour….


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This is a true statement. Quite a few actually.

There were also AA WO pilots sitting in AAs new hire class last week that are planning on bailing on AA as soon as they get their bonus checks in 2 weeks. They already have class dates elsewhere. Some people would rather fly purple boxes.
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Old 11-05-2021, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan View Post
This is a true statement. Quite a few actually.

There were also AA WO pilots sitting in AAs new hire class last week that are planning on bailing on AA as soon as they get their bonus checks in 2 weeks. They already have class dates elsewhere. Some people would rather fly purple boxes.
Savage, I like it. Good to see pilots with leverage and in the driver seat again. We're well overdue.
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Old 11-05-2021, 03:28 PM
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Savage, I like it. Good to see pilots with leverage and in the driver seat again. We're well overdue.
Yep. Good for them.
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Old 11-05-2021, 05:48 PM
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There were also AA WO pilots sitting in AAs new hire class last week that are planning on bailing on AA as soon as they get their bonus checks in 2 weeks.
That's amazing - in a good way. Keep that up.
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Old 11-06-2021, 07:27 AM
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Whatever they do they need to do it quickly. Personally I'd imagine a townhall this quickly after the last one, right after they got their solid numbers of who took the money and who didn't is a sign that they're going to offer something.

Whether or not it's enough remains to be seen.
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