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Old 10-15-2022, 11:17 AM
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I wouldn’t let one bad story change your decision. Think of what matters to you. If you can live in base that is more important than training. You will spend a few months dealing with training and be done for the year. Being on reserve will depend on your base, if you commute, and your attitude. On top of that, If you expect a regional’s training department to make you a good pilot, you are gonna be a crappy pilot. For what it’s worth, we had a DEC in my Indoc class that left Envoy bc he said they had some major safety issues. Again, only one story and, the grass is always greener…
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Old 10-15-2022, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FlannelDaddy View Post
Wow. Thank god they washed out this idi0t. A whiny little wimp doxing another pilot on the internet.I can't believe there's someone stupid enough to put it online. This might even open up the owner of the website to slander. I've never done a ride with the LCA that gets slandered in the website, but a close friend of mine did and had no bad things to say.

Yes procedure phase is hard. That's where 90% of people struggle, it's a lot for a pilot who's never flown jets. It's not supposed to be easy. You're not going to be perfect, but people get by. Cooperate to graduate. What the ******* does "AQP not like republic " even mean? AQP is AQP. You get re-dos on your MV, you're even allowed to re-do things on your LOE. This person has no credibility and has no clue about what they're talking about.

PSA training has been more than fair to me in my time there. Initial, multiple recurrent training events, upgrade, countless line checks. Checkrides in CLT, CVG, DAY you name it. Sounds like there's a lot more to the story than this pilot is leading on about. PSA doesn't ask people to resign after a single LOE failure, but eventually they will ask you to resign just like any company will.

Disregard this bitter, childish rant website. There are reasons to not pick PSA, but training isn't one of them.
Might want to double check that.
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Old 10-15-2022, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 View Post
Might want to double check that.
You're allowed to redo a "phase" or whatever they call it on LOE. The examiner can't tell you what exactly you messed up but they will say you're redoing a departure or taxi or landing. Idk what you want me to double check.
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Old 10-15-2022, 11:06 PM
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1500 hours in 3 years and two of them were as a student? Let go without retraining on one bust?
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Old 10-16-2022, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FlannelDaddy View Post
You're allowed to redo a "phase" or whatever they call it on LOE. The examiner can't tell you what exactly you messed up but they will say you're redoing a departure or taxi or landing. Idk what you want me to double check.
This is correct…sort of. You’re allowed to repeat 2 event sets (phases) per leg. The examiner is allowed to tell you why something was unsat, but they can’t provide training, coaching, practice, etc. For example, they can tell you you’re approach was unstable, but they can’t say it was unstable because…(pick a reason). That would be “training”.

Examiners do have the authority to call the LOE unsat without repeating anything if they see something egregious…like crashing.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:21 AM
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"Although, they went too in depth on systems and gee-whiz stuff that you don’t have to know for your KV and would not benefit you at all in flying the plane."

Glad a CFI with no 121 experience can state that. I'm sure that attitude carries him well in the future.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:24 AM
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There’s definitely some truth to what he says about the Training department. PSA does have a pattern of busting folks for what would considered debrief items at other carriers. PSA also have a few APDs who shouldn’t be APDs whatsoever. But to go create a website to **** on a former employer…. That’s another level. Just move on……l
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:29 AM
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Has this training issue been alleviated at all or is it the same folks? Is it a matter of bad luck or is it totally in one's control to get by unscathed?
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Old 10-16-2022, 10:38 AM
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Website is 100% spot on. Dont go to PSA. Glad I left that training department. As far as I know, nothing much has changed the past few years.

JC does indeed fail certain people, nobody likes him. And it is 100% correct he should not be an examiner with such poor judgment and decision making (multiple arrests, divorces, domestic incidents, really?). Word goes around at PSA, and nobody likes him.

I will also echo what other users posted on this thread.

I've done many training programs during my career, and now trying to be a DEC at Republic due to base options. I know many friends in the regional industry. Never heard people complain about Republic, Mesa, Endeavor training departments. And most recently, after their COVID overhaul and training department revamping (like the site says), Piedmont.

Good luck!!
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Old 10-17-2022, 05:43 AM
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My class last year had 2-3 not make it past the KV/SIP portion. Another 4-5 did not make it past sims/IOE.

apparently the training department used to be way worse pre-Covid and they used that opportunity to clean house of most of the toxic people in the training department but there are still a few.

I have heard sim instructors tell people they can’t be an examiner if they have a perfect pass rate.

I know of captains who are about to flow who did not do 1 thing perfect on their recurrent and the instructors make them re-do it… redoing a pre-taxi brief over something dumb, when they’re months away from flowing and been there 6+ years.

Another “bad seat support” who was role playing a FO who had a captain in upgrade bust and said they were cleared for TO when they were told line up and wait.

Another person had to redo their whole arrival because there were +6 KIAS on their bugged speed… when FAA standards are +/- 10 KIAS, but the examiner felt it wasn’t to his satisfaction.

the training department did let a RTP cadet get through their whole 121 training and checkride and finish the checkride to satisfactory, only for the examiner to realize he never had his commercial multi … so he could not even take his ATP, shouldn’t have even been hired. Examiner had to fail the student for this because he was not even eligible. This was pre-Covid, and 100% true.
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