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Old 04-05-2012 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
YGTBSM!!! So a lineholder gets a hotel if he has a 5 hour sit but your reserves have to sit at the airport for 12?! Talk about throwing the junior guys under the bus aka eating the young. I would give up crew meals to get rid of that in a heartbeat. But thats me.
You mean other airlines don't do this?? :P

When it's busy, rsvs get used up until 70 hours and sits hot rsv for the last few days of the moth continuously. I'm sure we will get hot rsv down to 8 hours but the problem is, we don't credit anything for it!!
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Old 04-05-2012 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
You mean other airlines don't do this?? :P

When it's busy, rsvs get used up until 70 hours and sits hot rsv for the last few days of the moth continuously. I'm sure we will get hot rsv down to 8 hours but the problem is, we don't credit anything for it!!
Thats even WORSE!!! I could maybe stomach 12 hours of hot reserve IF I got paid 12 hours for it. Maybe. But to get nothing?! Y'all's negotiating committee must be a bunch of nancies. Or else a bunchof senior DBs who know they'll be on the unemployment line before they see reserve again.

For reference, at XJT we also get a hotel for a 5+ hour sit but our ready reserves only sit for 4 hours. And get this, THEY CREDIT 4 HOURS OF PAY! Take that to your NC with a big ol' whiskey tango fox pinned to it.
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Old 04-06-2012 | 05:14 AM
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It's 10 hrs for ready reserve and there is no credit for that or regular reserve.
But you do get 3.6hrs pay per day if you call out sick.
So if you go to work you don't get paid but if you don't go to work you do get paid.
Welcome to PSA.
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Old 04-06-2012 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Y'all's negotiating committee must be a bunch of nancies. Or else a bunchof senior DBs who know they'll be on the unemployment line before they see reserve again.
Bingo. The current negotiation committee has nothing to do with the current contract we're stuck with and they claim they're working hard to improve the reserve rules. The senior guys who negotiated our "concessionary contract" did something very similar to what Republic did. We were supposedly getting up to 80 something jets and growing rapidly so in their eyes no one would be on reserve or stuck in the right seat long at all so they put no negotiating capital into reserve rules or FO pay that was even close to being proportional to CA pay. When the TA came out it was voted down by the pilots. Those senior negotiators claim they knew we were going out of business if we didn't get a contract asap. Dornier was out of business and PSA couldn't find parts for their fleet of 328s. The new contract was one to get jets so those guys called an emergency meeting and voted the rejected TA in with only the LEC members. Most of those guys never sat reserve in their career at PSA let alone flew as an FO. They had no clue the perfect storm they were creating for the junior guys but they're not really the type to care anyway.
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Old 04-08-2012 | 05:43 PM
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Reading threads like this one really make me NOT miss PSA. I couldn't take the recall when offered, and now I'm glad.

Didn't Mesa's Ornstein once say he didn't have to change anything since he had a stack of resumes 12" high in HR? And how old is this contract?
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Old 04-09-2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
It's 10 hrs for ready reserve and there is no credit for that or regular reserve.
But you do get 3.6hrs pay per day if you call out sick.
So if you go to work you don't get paid but if you don't go to work you do get paid.
Welcome to PSA.
Do you at least get per diem? Then you'd have $15 to show for your efforts. That should about cover the gas for the drive to/from the airport at current prices.
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Old 04-09-2012 | 01:38 PM
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Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.
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Old 04-10-2012 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by buckeye88
Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.
Incorrect. You get per diem, but that's it.
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Old 04-10-2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by buckeye88
Yes you do get paid per diem for hot reserve.
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Incorrect. You get per diem, but that's it.
Isn't that what he typed? You get paid PER DIEM for hot reserve?
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Old 04-10-2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Isn't that what he typed? You get paid PER DIEM for hot reserve?
Easy there hombre, he's a Texas pilot and therefore always right
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