Does anyone knows which base is junior right now and what is the expected reserve time for a new hire?

If you want day or tys you could probably get it. if you want clt you'll have to wait a month or so.. Roughly half the guys from the April class got clt on the last award.

Any advice for me? I sent my app in the beginning of May and haven't heard a word. 3500TT 1600Turb 1000PIC Turb. I thought they'd love to gobble me up.

Probably over qualified. What is you turbine pic in? You might qualify for a major hence they dont think they will get their moneys worth out of you before you leave.

Unfortunately this is probably the case. We don't have to sign a training contract and they are probably worried that you would split once you are able to say that you are employed at a 121 carrier.

1000PIC turbine. I mean if a major offered me a job while I was at a regional I would probably take it depending on a LOT of factors like which company, location, pay etc etc etc. That being said, nobody knows what the majors will hire at in the next few months/years. I'm having a hard time finding people that will tell me whether or not to stay 135 and get 400hours PIC jet a year or go 121 and get 800SIC.

False. Guaranteed you are an attractive candidate from what you have said. Qualified is hard to find these days. Maybe they are just backed up?

Screw PSA, why don't you look at some expat gigs in Asia? Even if you don't want to live in China there are still plenty of other gigs in nice and decent areas.

Probably the best advice I have read on these forums in a longtime (except any advice that involves the massive consumption of alcohol, ofcourse).

Anyone have any info on when PSA might schedule the next class if any? I know the last class started on the 24th of June. I've been treading water for a month now and just wondering.

Probably because the Asia gigs suck and aren't worth it. They may look good on paper, but talk to some guys that actually do it.

Funny the Chinese say the same thing about American Regional Jobs.

A buddy of mine just washed out at PSA on LOFT. He had....no....previous check-ride failures. None. During training he had failed no writtens and only had to repeat one sim lesson. Imagine that. They just spent the money to give this guy a type and then washed him out.

Be careful at any training program. It would seem that PSA, and certainly many other airlines, will wash you out just so they can wash their hands of having to explain anything to anyone who could possibly inquire after an incident or accident. That or it's some twisted loyalty to a dysfunctional hierarchy of calculated collateral damage.

To me, it appears as if the regionals are handling pilots with perfect, or near perfect training records, as if they could all be future Captain Renslows. There is no credence given to prior training records in their considerations of whether they wash you out or not. Callus and completely illogical. They're destroying pilots futures and not even thinking twice about it.

As they say, past performance does not guarantee the future. Their records only got them into training--you have to meet the standards in training.

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Heard about this as well from a sim instructor. Apparently he could handle emergency procedures fine for the PC, but when it came to normal flight line procedures, just couldn't stay in the game. They gave him an additional LOFT and still no dice? If he can't handle the LOFT, from a training department perspective, wouldn't he run into issues in OE which is a whole different ballgame than the sim? And he already had to do redo a previous lesson? Not to knock on him but is that not a little bit of a red flag if you are having to repeat lessons/ not progressing on schedule?

On a side note, did they issue him a type? I was under the assumption that types were going to start being issued strictly on recurrent PC's until late July for new hires at the earliest.

I'm pretty sure they haven't started typing.

Repeating a sim lesson is a big no no. Anyone I knew in my big class in early 08' who had extra sim session all washed out. Given a second loft and not passing equals two failures plus extra sim which is another failure in their book.

Doesn't matter if you had perfect record in the past.

PSA flight department are full of good guys, and no I'm not associated with them, just know the guys there won't wash you out without solid reasons such as the above post stated.

By "him" I am assuming that he is you? Take responsibility man. This isn't a video game that you restart if you kill people...

Like I said before: there are many things wrong with PSA but the training department is not one of them.

.........Agreed. I think however, the standards of training have drastically changed in the light of Colgan 3407. The guy had a perfect record. You'd think a company, in doing what they did, was reacting to a pilot failing his way to the airlines like Renslow. The guy had an issue with one concept; LOFT, in an ocean of new concepts. Big deal. That's what a captain is there for, to mentor the small stuff into place. Polish. It just seems to me that newer, higher expectations are placing undue burdens upon new hires that have superb records. It's causing more collateral damage than necessary. The airlines want every trainee to be a Chuck Jager, but the last thing they want to do is pay for 'em. Just my opinion.

Gimme a break. No. Guys that have failed multiple checkrides, like Renslow "kill people". I think your commentary is a perfect example of over-reaction to a small hick-up in training. "Kill people". Pu-lease.

Oh. I donno. I assumed because he passed his initial PC that he got a type out of it.

LoL! No. Not every 3rd person scenario on a forum is a proxy recounting of a posters experience.

I think we need to start talking about something else.... If y'all want to keep talking about this issue do it in private not on the forums it's disrespectful to the guy and all the facts aren't there for a public discussion... Not trying to be a jerk just saying lets keep moving on to more important things... And no, fo type rating aren't starting until everyone's next pc as per the email that was sent out

+1.... You're jerk but not by saying that ;) its not cool to throw around someones situation so carelessly. The guy that brought it up isnt doing anyone any favors by being the master informant. Those things happen at all airlines.

Yes you know I'm a jerk from those crazy nights in that disco club in mem haha don't you have something to be studying right now instead of being on here????? Ha :D

Agreed. I'll I'm say'n is be careful out there guys. Just because the staff at a training department smiles at ya don't mean they wont cut you loose at the first sign of anything but perfection. God speed airmen.

I have been here for over 5 years...extended a sim session in upgrade...(yes, even some Captain upgrades have been "cut loose" after two failed attempts).... ...this Training Department will work with you...offer you additional training, etc....goes for the Check Airmen too.....Training and maintenance departments are two departments I don't have an issue with at PSA...the rest I deal with as I feel comfortable with my equipment and the First Officers that are presented as a valid crew member!! Ohhhh....good crews all around for the most part ...I hope your friend finds another training department opportunity soon !!

Unbelievable.........

So what is the current hiring status at PSA? I'd love to get hired there. I've heard nothing but positive things about the place. :)

Ha ha. It's a regional. Same as the rest. Work here if you live near a base. Otherwise look elsewhere.

Just out of curiosity, where are you hearing "nothing but positive things" from?

From me! I've been PMing him kool-aids lol

PSA can improve a lot! But it can also get a lot worse compared to other regionals. We're kind of in the middle of it all. I personal don't regret coming here over eagles and awac. Although if awac called before psa, I would've gone with awac just to be based at home.

Been told instructors are going back to line due to decreased training caused by lack of attrition..... Shall see. We are pretty fat right now.... Over 500 pilots for 49 A/C that normally has a 1:7 staffing..... Maybe 1:8 at the best of times....

If they are fat why are they doing on site interviews at the job fair. Do you guys expect a lot of attrition soon?

I LOVE how half the people on Airline Pilot Forums are HR plants! LOL!

I had some time to think about what you said, above. Insofar as your concern about the "disrespect" my posts might show to "the guy" (Pro-noun). I think your concerns are faux. I think your true concern is showing disrespect to PSA. After all, the pilot in question remains nameless, while the company does not.

Bing! Probably during training.

Mainline will be hiring quite a bit starting aug/sept so let's hope for more attrition.

I love that you think I'm an HR plant. I work for PSA and was using a lot of sarcasm there. Keep up the good work. :)

I don't know who you work for, if anyone, but you're wrong if you think the training department here would fail anyone for any reason other than their own doing. It doesn't really matter if you've never failed anything before, this is for real. You might be able to fly circles around anyone in a cessna, but the CRJ is a lot of airplane when you're new to it and some people just aren't sharp enough to handle the pace that things happen. I get plenty of new FOs that are still figuring out what is going on because it's all a new experience, but if you can't get past the sim there is a real issue there. Often that issue is one of attitude. In fact, I've seen our training department go above and beyond to help someone giving their all to get through. If it's not going to happen, though, those guys can spot it because they are extremely experienced and there's no sense continuing in futility. It's a $30 million airplane with $1 billion worth of liability, so a lack of basic skills and knowledge will drown you. A LOFT is as close to real life problems as the sim really gets, so not being able to cut the mustard there likely brought up some serious underlying issues. Having said all of that, it's not really fair for you to sit here and criticize a training department just because your buddy doesn't have what it takes to make it flying jets. I can say with the utmost confidence that whatever reason the training department had for cutting him off was come by honest and after many chances had been given.

Two things they tell you day one of ground school at PSA. Cooperate and graduate. If you put forth the effort and have a good attitude you will succeed. If you walk around with a chip on your shoulder or you have an attitude problem, you will have a tough time. There have been folks with thousands of hours and folks with very minimal time that have failed out. All you need to do is study and pay attention. And just like brownstreak mentioned, the company has gone above and beyond to help some folks out.

SDO gone and we are being lubed up for no raise/concessionary scales. Stockholm syndrome...