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thisislame 09-26-2012 03:54 AM

I've been out of the loop for a while now as far as new hire classes. Seems like they have had two classes recently with about 6 new hires. All of which were based in Dayton. I assume that until they get a majority of the ATP/Type rides done for the FO's that the amount of classes will be limited. They did however just announce another 4 CA upgrades.

They have also started asking for LOA's from captains for the month of October. As well as a trip by trip basis LOA for the FO's. The reason for that is so that the guys/gals that do not have the ATP minimums can get their times up. Of course if you take the LOA as an FO, you do not get paid for your time off. And they only notify you 24 hours before the trip start to let you know if you have it off.

skyxbomb 09-26-2012 04:46 AM

LOA for FOs were for September. I got a trip off from it. Only saw notice for CAs' LOA for October. Hope they continue offering for FOs.

pagey 09-26-2012 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1266680)
LOA for FOs were for September. I got a trip off from it. Only saw notice for CAs' LOA for October. Hope they continue offering for FOs.

I hope not. The company seems to be abusing it to get trips flown for free.(pure speculation on my part just looking at the kind of assignments reserves are getting)

It's also creating an artificial shortage of reserves. There were 30+ reserves in CLT for sep. I will be close to breaking guarantee while trying not to fly.(last out)

jws3443 09-26-2012 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1266946)
I hope not. The company seems to be abusing it to get trips flown for free.(pure speculation on my part just looking at the kind of assignments reserves are getting)

It's also creating an artificial shortage of reserves. There were 30+ reserves in CLT for sep. I will be close to breaking guarantee while trying not to fly.(last out)

Shortage of reserves? How so? I haven't been called for a trip in weeks...

skyxbomb 09-26-2012 03:31 PM

I remember asking for late rsv and got 5am hot rsv twice. After that I never asked for anything lol

I heard new schedulers are nicer and more flexible now since we are a little fat on staff.

pagey 09-26-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by jws3443 (Post 1266980)
Shortage of reserves? How so? I haven't been called for a trip in weeks...

Are you based in CLT? Like I said I ask for last out and am getting called pretty much every day.

I'm sure DAY, and especially TYS are different.

Ramprat 09-26-2012 05:11 PM

FO, haven't been used once this month in TYS.

Rotor2prop 09-26-2012 05:53 PM

Anyone hear of any of PSA CA getting a call for momma airways?

seafeye 09-27-2012 04:56 AM

Some people have been getting called.
But there really isn't a preferential hiring here. They may tell you that in the interview but now we are being looked at like every other applicant. And when we do the interviews we are asked the same interview questions as any other pilot.
We have check airmen, with a college degree, etc... that cannot get an interview.
The quickest way to mainline from PSA is either have a Daddy that works there or quit PSA and apply from the street. Now with a merger pending? And Doug P. stating that 1700 American Pilots could be on the street? Not sure if it would be a wise decision to go there. F/O to F/O, i would make the jump in an instant. But to give up 60% pay. Go from 3 weeks vacation to 1. And having to commute to PHL to swing gear on a 190. Then the risk of being furloughed.
Those that take the risk may get rewarded by quick movement when retirements hit. It's all a gamble.
So to answer your question. Is Yes people are getting called. People are leaving. But the selection process is not as simple as it used to be. It really isn't a preferential hiring.

BTpilot 09-27-2012 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1267224)
Some people have been getting called.
But there really isn't a preferential hiring here. They may tell you that in the interview but now we are being looked at like every other applicant. And when we do the interviews we are asked the same interview questions as any other pilot.
We have check airmen, with a college degree, etc... that cannot get an interview.
The quickest way to mainline from PSA is either have a Daddy that works there or quit PSA and apply from the street. Now with a merger pending? And Doug P. stating that 1700 American Pilots could be on the street? Not sure if it would be a wise decision to go there. F/O to F/O, i would make the jump in an instant. But to give up 60% pay. Go from 3 weeks vacation to 1. And having to commute to PHL to swing gear on a 190. Then the risk of being furloughed.
Those that take the risk may get rewarded by quick movement when retirements hit. It's all a gamble.
So to answer your question. Is Yes people are getting called. People are leaving. But the selection process is not as simple as it used to be. It really isn't a preferential hiring.

Well said sir.. I think a few Whiskey drivers got calls to interview but I haven't heard anything about anyone leaving... I'm convinced airways doesn't like our pilots too much anyways lol.

Rotor2prop 09-27-2012 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1267224)
Some people have been getting called.
But there really isn't a preferential hiring here. They may tell you that in the interview but now we are being looked at like every other applicant. And when we do the interviews we are asked the same interview questions as any other pilot.
We have check airmen, with a college degree, etc... that cannot get an interview.
The quickest way to mainline from PSA is either have a Daddy that works there or quit PSA and apply from the street. Now with a merger pending? And Doug P. stating that 1700 American Pilots could be on the street? Not sure if it would be a wise decision to go there. F/O to F/O, i would make the jump in an instant. But to give up 60% pay. Go from 3 weeks vacation to 1. And having to commute to PHL to swing gear on a 190. Then the risk of being furloughed.
Those that take the risk may get rewarded by quick movement when retirements hit. It's all a gamble.
So to answer your question. Is Yes people are getting called. People are leaving. But the selection process is not as simple as it used to be. It really isn't a preferential hiring.

Thank you for the detailed reply!

thisislame 09-27-2012 07:37 PM

I'd be interested to know if scheduling is up to their old tricks. They used to pull some crap on reserves that was ridiculous. Are they still TDY'ing folks to CLT or DAY to sit reserve? Or ending a trip in another base and then having you sit hot reserve the next day? Then there is always the lovely "you are the only reserve we have in the system" line of crap. Oh and a word of advice. If they try to give you a high speed make sure your schedule says "Crew On Duty". Otherwise they will try to assign you something else the next day when you get back.

fullflank 10-02-2012 09:12 AM

Looks like theres an opening for a CP position. Anyone know if RE is stepping down already or are they adding a third one, like we used to have?

skyxbomb 10-02-2012 10:58 AM

RE is leaving. Good for him!

texaspilot76 10-02-2012 11:09 AM

Are there any flight time or other special requirements for the CP job?

skyxbomb 10-02-2012 11:23 AM

I assume you need to be in good standing and a captain.

fullflank 10-02-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1270065)
Are there any flight time or other special requirements for the CP job?

3k 121 pic. Hence GR is ASSISTANT chief.

OnMyWay 10-02-2012 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1270080)
3k 121 pic. Hence GR is ASSISTANT chief.

For now...

fullflank 10-02-2012 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by OnMyWay (Post 1270105)
For now...

Thats a reg not company mins

aquila 10-02-2012 12:14 PM

Has anyone got a call from the September interviews ? Any news for class dates??

seafeye 10-02-2012 01:05 PM

I'll do it. But then i wouldn't be able to strike....But maybe being G.R.'s boss would be fun.

OnMyWay 10-03-2012 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1270109)
Thats a reg not company mins

Did you forget how GR got the possition?

fullflank 10-03-2012 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by OnMyWay (Post 1270533)
Did you forget how GR got the possition?

GR is not the Chief Pilot. He is the ASSISTANT Chief Pilot exactly becuase of this reg. Im sure if he qualified, he wouldve been Chief though.

OnMyWay 10-03-2012 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1270549)
GR is not the Chief Pilot. He is the ASSISTANT Chief Pilot exactly becuase of this reg. Im sure if he qualified, he wouldve been Chief though.

He wasn't qualified to be the assistant either, but they got a waiver for him. He isn't qualified to be the chief but....... You know how our company works.

fullflank 10-03-2012 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by OnMyWay (Post 1270578)
He wasn't qualified to be the assistant either, but they got a waiver for him. He isn't qualified to be the chief but....... You know how our company works.

True. I guess we'll see.


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