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Old 03-10-2016, 07:32 AM
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by outaluckagain View Post
If they are having staffing issues related to filling classes, then why don't the idiots stop rejecting applicants for stupid reasons:
1. rejecting applicants with DUI"s
2. rejecting those with minor PRIA issues.
They don't blanket reject DUI's. I referred a friend that got hired with a DUI. He had to show that he could legally fly into Canada.
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I guess I will keep this running ..Why did the company pull the Seniority
List off FLICA??.I heard there was a mass exodus and they don't won't us to know about it.


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Old 03-21-2016, 05:44 AM
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It was posted initially; I wouldn't call it a mass exodus. I'm just above the 1000 mark and moved up 8. I don't remember the exact total number but I think it was around 1185. Still nothing to brag about since we were going to ramp up hiring in January and be on our way to 1000 additional pilots for 16/17. They may not be in full fledged panic mode yet but if they aren't concerned with staffing at this point there isn't much management in our management team; at least with the information we have been provided. Maybe they don't want any more airplanes or further growth, although that wouldn't seem to make much sense. I may be misinterpreting the vibe but it feels like the current pilot group is being blamed because PSA can't hire new pilots. Hopefully we are able to come to a long term resolution soon to keep people coming in the door. It takes time for people that weren't previously looking for a job to find one that provides some career progression... not an overnight process. It is going to be an interesting summer.
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I may be misinterpreting the vibe but it feels like the current pilot group is being blamed because PSA can't hire new pilots.
I certainly hope so! That would mean that PSA management realizes that the pilot group is their BEST recruiting tool and that an unhappy pilot group is not going to help them recruit a lot of new hires. In fact, an unhappy pilot group can be very effective at keeping new hires away. And I think we (the PSA pilot group) are currently doing a pretty good job of discouraging pilots from coming here.
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Originally Posted by Dubz View Post
It was posted initially; I wouldn't call it a mass exodus. I'm just above the 1000 mark and moved up 8. I don't remember the exact total number but I think it was around 1185. Still nothing to brag about since we were going to ramp up hiring in January and be on our way to 1000 additional pilots for 16/17. They may not be in full fledged panic mode yet but if they aren't concerned with staffing at this point there isn't much management in our management team; at least with the information we have been provided. Maybe they don't want any more airplanes or further growth, although that wouldn't seem to make much sense. I may be misinterpreting the vibe but it feels like the current pilot group is being blamed because PSA can't hire new pilots. Hopefully we are able to come to a long term resolution soon to keep people coming in the door. It takes time for people that weren't previously looking for a job to find one that provides some career progression... not an overnight process. It is going to be an interesting summer.

If it's not a mass exodus then why pull
the seniority list ??..Makes you wonder.


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Originally Posted by Slick111 View Post
I certainly hope so! That would mean that PSA management realizes that the pilot group is their BEST recruiting tool and that an unhappy pilot group is not going to help them recruit a lot of new hires. In fact, an unhappy pilot group can be very effective at keeping new hires away. And I think we (the PSA pilot group) are currently doing a pretty good job of discouraging pilots from coming here.

That's damn straight !


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If it's not a mass exodus then why pull
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I posted this info when the bids came out. Between the February and March seniority list there were 16 resignations and 10 new hires for a total loss of 6. That makes 16 new hires this year and 28 resignations, with many more to come Im sure.

16 in a month is a close to a mass exudos, that's 1 pilot every 2 days. Considering it takes 10-12 weeks to get a pilot online that's not a good situation for PSA.

They probably pulled the list to keep us from seeing how many resign in March. Fortunately I saved it so I'll keep everyone updated. If they even publish the list for the May bid
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Originally Posted by Slick111 View Post
I certainly hope so! That would mean that PSA management realizes that the pilot group is their BEST recruiting tool and that an unhappy pilot group is not going to help them recruit a lot of new hires. In fact, an unhappy pilot group can be very effective at keeping new hires away. And I think we (the PSA pilot group) are currently doing a pretty good job of discouraging pilots from coming here.
Agree, my point was that current pilots aren't the primary reason they can't staff -- I think it probably has more to do with the amount of cash that hits my bank account twice a month... or lack thereof.
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I posted this info when the bids came out. Between the February and March seniority list there were 16 resignations and 10 new hires for a total loss of 6. That makes 16 new hires this year and 28 resignations, with many more to come Im sure.

16 in a month is a close to a mass exudos, that's 1 pilot every 2 days. Considering it takes 10-12 weeks to get a pilot online that's not a good situation for PSA.

They probably pulled the list to keep us from seeing how many resign in March. Fortunately I saved it so I'll keep everyone updated. If they even publish the list for the May bid
Endeavor just over a year ago was losing 70+/mo. Granted we were parking planes at the time so it didn't really affect the operation. The shortage is good for the regional industry pay but not so good if you are trying to upgrade and get out quick!
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