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SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1624521)
Pretty sure their new contract says yr 1-2 pay is the same on bro and crj. No one is too good to fly a turboprop, they're more fun than jets!

No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:46 PM

So, back to the original question. Does anyone know if this is an interview for a class date?

Paid2fly 04-16-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay, skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract. All due respect, sounds like apples to oranges.








PSA pay is higher, on what planet? SkyWest has multiple long term contracts with multiple major partners.

Guess all your sham posts mean recruiting isn't going all that well for ya at PSA?

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:58 PM

Sooooo you do or do not have the specific answer my very simple question? :confused:

rcfd13 04-16-2014 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay

That's just simply untrue. Year 2 turboprop pay at Skywest is $37.15/hour which is more than the $34/hour APC lists 2nd year PSA jet pay at.

PSA FOs top out at $41/hour and Skywest FOs top out at $49/hour.

PSA Captains top out at $99/hour and Skywest captains top out at $115/hour.

It took me 15 seconds of looking around this website to figure that out so I'm not sure why you'd post a blatant lie. There are negative things about Skywest but the pay is most definitely not one of them. The pay scale is very good for a regional.


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624526)
No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

SJS is strong eh? What exactly do you need "jet" time for that "turbine" time won't cover? Plenty of Brasilia captains I've flown with have gone to the majors and Brasilia FOs have gone to LCCs. There are a bunch of current Brasilia captains with United class dates. My Brasilia IOE instructor is now at United. My sim partner for my last time through recurrent is now at US Airways. One person left my Brasilia -> RJ transition class mid-class to take a class date with JetBlue before ever having flown the RJ.

You don't 'need' jet time. You just think you're too cool to fly a turboprop.

rcfd13 04-16-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract.

Isn't not having a 10 year contract a good thing? Won't it suck to be at PSA 10 years from now when the payscale is the same as it is today and has never been adjusted for inflation? That's effectively a paycut every year for 10 years when the pay is towards the bottom of industry standard already.

Seminole00 04-16-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 1624563)
That's just simply untrue. Year 2 turboprop pay at Skywest is $37.15/hour which is more than the $34/hour APC lists 2nd year PSA jet pay at.

PSA FOs top out at $41/hour and Skywest FOs top out at $49/hour.

PSA Captains top out at $99/hour and Skywest captains top out at $115/hour.

It took me 15 seconds of looking around this website to figure that out so I'm not sure why you'd post a blatant lie. There are negative things about Skywest but the pay is most definitely not one of them. The pay scale is very good for a regional.



SJS is strong eh? What exactly do you need "jet" time for that "turbine" time won't cover? Plenty of Brasilia captains I've flown with have gone to the majors and Brasilia FOs have gone to LCCs. There are a bunch of current Brasilia captains with United class dates. My Brasilia IOE instructor is now at United. My sim partner for my last time through recurrent is now at US Airways. One person left my Brasilia -> RJ transition class mid-class to take a class date with JetBlue before ever having flown the RJ.

You don't 'need' jet time. You just think you're too cool to fly a turboprop.

Please stop, that's too much logic and common sense. ;)
BTW i think he is using "fojared" recruiting strategy.

saturn 04-16-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624526)
No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

http:// http://m.memegenerator.net/instance/48650322

450knotOffice 04-16-2014 09:23 PM

From someone with about equal time in props and jets, I've never understood that "turboprops are more fun than jets" sentiment. It's simply not true. I'm glad I flew them (for maybe 7000 hours), but I don't wish to return to them. Sorry.

rcfd13 04-16-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1624582)
From someone with about equal time in props and jets, I've never understood that "turboprops are more fun than jets" sentiment. It's simply not true. I'm glad I flew them (for maybe 7000 hours), but I don't wish to return to them. Sorry.

What was more fun for me about the turboprop were the routes and overnights. On the jet I'm stuck in places like Fargo and Winnipeg all winter. Even big city overnights usually have us staying out by the airport with nothing to do within walking distance. On the turboprop I was staying within walking distance of the beach 3 nights a week and flying up and down the coast all day. Also since we only had one or two crews per night over nighting at most of the turboprop outstations the hotels would cater to us a little more providing free food, free drinks or free van rides into town. They appreciated our service a bit more than big city airport hotels that have 40 airline crews per night there.

I'd say as an airplane I enjoy flying the jet more, but I do miss the overnights and the crews from the truboprop some days.


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